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bigsbetter
09-18-2006, 07:48 PM
I'm sure a thread like this has been done before, but most of us are always doing something to improve our performance, so it's time to update. I would like to see members post there personal boat specs. ,and current top speed numbers. What you have done to your engine, horsepower numbers, prop specs, and any other mechanical or speed/power details you would like to add. I'll start it off...




1988 251 Convincor Stock 454 with Wieand 177 supercharger running 4.5 lbs. boost. Timing is set at 28 degrees total. Holley 800 cfm carb. Stock everything else. If the blower is adding 125-150 horsepower as it's sopposed to then I'm around 450-475HP. Best speed numbers are 69.7 down river on GPS. I'm running a 26 Bravo 1 prop @ 4500 rpm. It runs about 3 mph slower with my 28 Hydromotive @ 4250rpm. Still expiermenting with props... and waiting for the cooler weather to get it over 70mph. The supercharger has gained me 12-13 mph. at a cost of $1900.00.


I'm looking forward to seeing other members specs. and how much work and expense it took to get there.

vinny p.
09-18-2006, 09:21 PM
My 259 will run 84 on a good day with good conditions, right chop, cooler air, less weight on board. It will run 80 any day. All work has been rigged and / or done myself. As for power, I built an N.A. 540. Relatively mild, low compression, hydraulic roller cam, A.F.R. heads, all good parts.. Made 680 h.p. @ 5800 rpm and 660 ft lbs of torque @ 4900 rpm. CMI full dry headers, GGB extreme mufflers. Thats is in front of an Merc XR upper and Imco SC lower ( standard length ) , spinning a labbed 25 P5-X Hydromotive. Imco dual ram full hydraulic steering, Dana Marine HP-1000 tabs.

bigsbetter
09-18-2006, 09:21 PM
If your boat/engine is stock we'd like to haer about it also.

Big Dave
09-18-2006, 10:00 PM
Little Diplomat I/O (17 ft) 5.7v8 forged flat tops, good 3 angle on the heads, Too much cam(was in block, I wish I knew the spec's) Edelbrock performer intake w/ Holley 650 doublepumper with powervalves plugged off. turning a 14.5x20p Mach Sterndriver 4 blade to 5300 rpm w/ alpha outdrve.
Looking for a cheap gps to check speed. I think it has a lot more in it, but we had a hydrofoil on the outdrive that I want to take off, and I think it will need trim tabs to offset the weight in the back of the boat.
Big change from the 4 cyl that came in the boat!!!!

Diplomat82
09-18-2006, 10:15 PM
82 Diplomat with Mercruiser 470 and standard aluminium prop. GPS at 48mph.

jgreen
09-18-2006, 10:32 PM
Come on jkeiper, lets hear your secret.:D

Mine, 1994 pulse 185,
175 efi mag mariner
23 laser II
5 1/2 in. jack plate
70 mph (speedo), with 1 person in boat almost no fuel, center windshield in and bow cover on.

onthehammer
09-19-2006, 08:52 AM
2001 300 Convincor (no notch), Mercury 525SC, Lightning headers, Teague 4.5" select tips, full helm hydraulic steering, K-tabs, HP gimbal, Bravo 1, Big oil cooler, tweaked 1050 dominator carb (stock with motor), 5 lbs boost (stock), 69.7 GPS 2 people 1/2 tank fuel 25P Hydromotive QIV, 70.5 GPS same load 4900rpm 26P Bravo 1, 72.3 GPS same load 28P labbed bravo 1. Need to get my 26 labbed to reach 5200rpm. If I don't sell the boat I will add a Super Chiller, bigger cam, roller lifters etc. hoping for 600 + hp and high 70's. I will post after the winter with results.

illMATTic
09-19-2006, 09:15 AM
well im sure most of you know this already but here ya go agian

78 predictor
86 merc 2.4 200 (stock)
5.5" setback at 1" below the pad
28P merc chopper
turning 6300-6400 running at 78 mph gps :p

boatman4021
09-19-2006, 05:04 PM
Hey guy's, 2000br with 1996 merc 225efi, 10" manual jack plate and 2" spacers jacked all the way, and a 27" trophy plus. 76mph on gps @5600rpm's and still tweaking!

KevinR
09-19-2006, 05:23 PM
1996 21 Pulsare BR 225 EFI stock 12" set back hydrolic plate about 2" below pad 26 trophy plus medium vent plugs 70.5 GPS. Still working it out I know theres more there I just have to find it.

aaronmt
09-19-2006, 06:23 PM
1987 Starflite-12" setback, 1 1/2" below the V,1987 Yamaha excel(240hp) 25p trophy plus 73.8 gps.:thumb:Aaron

175checkmate
09-19-2006, 07:29 PM
1975 Trimate 2, 2.4 200+ solid mounts, mild port work, reeds, mod vp 245hp carbs, balanced. Speed information is from the prior to overhaul set up. Hyd jack plate. (home made came with the boat) Plate all the way up. 3.5" below the bottom. 6400 rpm 69.8 mph (gps)

Have not tested yet with the new mods.

9" wide X 7' pad added to the bottom, extended strakes back to the transom.. new wood everywhere. Transom drilled to mount plate 2.5" higher that factory. 6" set back CMC hyd plate. Bob's nose cone to be added after testing.
Shooting for 80mph. Going to need a bigger prop

claupie
09-19-2006, 08:53 PM
Hey guy's, 2000br with 1996 merc 225efi, 10" manual jack plate and 2" spacers jacked all the way, and a 27" trophy plus. 76mph on gps @5600rpm's and still tweaking!
how stable??? any chine walk ??

Adam L.
09-20-2006, 08:25 AM
Not to impressive but here are the numbers:

1989 Checkmate Predictor
1989 Mercury 115 4cyl.
Land and Sea Hydraulic Jack
26 pitch Chopper
59.3 gps @ 5900- 6000 RPM

Hoping to move up to a V6 this winter:devil:

boatman4021
09-20-2006, 09:03 AM
Very stable! Once you are on the pad, it takes very little effort to hold it there. At max speed in calm water, I think you could turn loose of the steer wheel! boatman

ianz
09-20-2006, 10:00 AM
Pulsare 2100 BR with 2006 225 Pro XS.

Setup with 6" Manual Jack plate raised almost to the top. Spinning a 27p Tempest @ 5700. Top speed is 76.1 on GPS with bow cover on and 75.5 with the cover off.

I have hopes for 78 on GPS with 10" set back and a labbed 27.

IZ

CMK
09-20-2006, 01:12 PM
'05 21' Pulsare w/ '03 225 efi merc, 79 speedo, 74.5 gps

Brian
09-20-2006, 02:12 PM
84' Enchanter with 04' 225 H.O, Slightly modified, turning a custom 30p raker II, at 6100rpms, with 6 inch jack, omc to merc lower, runs right at 83.4gps! Thats the best i've got will run 78-80 anyday!! Walks alittle at top end but that keeps it fun!!

85Predictor
09-21-2006, 08:13 PM
Borrowed a GPS today for the last run of the season.
'85 Predictor
'87 Merc 115 6-cyl
I was able to get 51.7 mph. (Quite Windy)
5600 to 5800 rpm
No jackplate
22P Michigan Wheel stainless

If the tach is correct, I might be able to go up in pitch.
Normal range is 5000-5500 per owner's manual.

What do you think??

dfarina
09-22-2006, 10:31 AM
'78 Convincer
Ford 302 H.O.
Currently replacing stringers and floor,
As fast as I want to tow it.

illMATTic
09-22-2006, 01:05 PM
Borrowed a GPS today for the last run of the season.
'85 Predictor
'87 Merc 115 6-cyl
I was able to get 51.7 mph. (Quite Windy)
5600 to 5800 rpm
No jackplate
22P Michigan Wheel stainless

If the tach is correct, I might be able to go up in pitch.
Normal range is 5000-5500 per owner's manual.

What do you think??

if your tac was reading 5600 you are right on with your speed, assuming you have a 2:1 lower unit. i bet you could gain a couple mph with a 23P. those michigan wheel props are not too efficiant. try a laserII. many have had success with them on a predictor including myself.

check253
09-22-2006, 02:34 PM
2001 300 Convincor. Twin turbo charged 572 with 23# of boost. Best speed on GPS was 114. I think there might be more...

ianz
09-22-2006, 03:06 PM
2001 300 Convincor. Twin turbo charged 572 with 23# of boost. Best speed on GPS was 114. I think there might be more...


That may be the fastest Checkmate ever!

IZ

jgreen
09-22-2006, 04:48 PM
2001 300 Convincor. Twin turbo charged 572 with 23# of boost. Best speed on GPS was 114. I think there might be more...

114 mph gps!!!!! Holy crap!!!! :eyecrazy:

t town
09-23-2006, 02:48 AM
1981 Sportfire with a fresh merc XR2. Running 6"of set back 1" below the pad with a 26p merc chopper....74.3 mph on garman GPS

merc245
09-23-2006, 11:37 PM
CHECK253 was at the 1st checkmate pokerrun in 05' theres plenty of pics in those threads. He's the one with the #6 out drive hang off out back.

http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3928

Reed
09-23-2006, 11:53 PM
well I put my tri-mate 2 on the lake in July with a fresh power head . Well I didn't suspect my prop was bad it was a 24 pitch chopper well I gpsed at 49 one run the next time out the prop blew out, ( spinning the hub inside the prop ) and she tached out at 8,500rpm for a split sec as fast as I could throttle down well damage was done I lost compression on 2 cylinders and now my fresh rebuild is a boat anchor. ( I'm in surch of a bare block if anyone has one please email me at Greghi65@aol.com ) shakeing it off can't tell props are bad some times by the naked eye. Chalk one up for a learning experiance lol , back to the build up stand . Reed ( I'm going with a 26 pitch cleaver next try )

persuader22
09-24-2006, 04:04 PM
:banana: My 1992 22ft persuader has the 454mag 385hp fresh rebuild this summer. Im running a 3blade 24pitch quicksilver prop, also a 24 pitch 4blade mirage, bennet trim tabs. I need 4 adults in the boat to keep the boat in the water, running fully loaded with gas, 4 adults on board, small chop on the water, im pushing 76mph on the speedometer . It will probably go faster but it chime walks if i push it more than that. looking at maybe adding a single arm hydraulic steering this winter and see if that will help. I havent ran the boat yet on the gps, still playing with props ect.. the 24pitch that im running ive got some throttle left, and im running at 5100 rpm. So i may try to jump up to a 3blade 25 pitch next summer.

aaronmt
09-26-2006, 11:33 AM
http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gifWent out this morning to flush the boat out from last nites salt water run. The motor has something going on the power is intermitent but running strong this morning,im thinking plug wires or a carb problem but for what ever reason a new topspeed number appeard on the gps. 87 starflite,12"set back,1 1/2"below the V 87 yamaha Excel 25p trophy plus with no ring on 74.3 mph.

Costa
09-26-2006, 03:09 PM
1988 Exciter
1990 Evinrude XP-200
Fresh Motor Rebuild (75 hrs)
Boeysen Dual Stage Reeds
Bobs Nosecone w/low water pickups
6" hyd. jack w/additional 2" spacers
6380rpms, light fuel, just me in boat (200lbs)
massaged 28p Chopper-83 gps best
80 typical (85 Lie-o-meter)
21p Raker-72 gps
W/Land and Sea Dual Plug Heads
no speed difference but incredible acceleration,
and ability to duplicate top speeds w/2-3 people in boat.:D

Daddio
09-30-2006, 07:41 AM
1986 23' Enforcer w/ 86 200 Merc 47mph (gps)
Im running 22 Chopper @5700

Daddio

illMATTic
10-01-2006, 05:13 PM
well im sure most of you know this already but here ya go agian

78 predictor
86 merc 2.4 200 (stock)
5.5" setback at 1" below the pad
28P merc chopper
turning 6300-6400 running at 78 mph gps :p

iv got it up to 80.6 mph now with a 29P mazco. it was turning at 6200. i have a 30P hoss on the way. :thumb:

SneakyPete
10-01-2006, 05:45 PM
1983 21ft Enchanter 65mph gps @4200 w/ 25p Mirage.
Need less prop I think.
383 SBC. Keith Black Forged flat tops with 2 valve reliefs. GM 4 bolt iron block, forged crank and rods. Balanced and blue printed. Iron Vortec Heads, Beehive spings, Comp Cams Hydraulic Flat Tappet Cam, 9.75:1 C/R. Edelbrock RPM air gap, Edelbrock 750cfm carb. Hardin aluminum manifolds, stock merc ss risers w/ thru hull.

onthehammer
10-02-2006, 08:09 AM
Emptied all the family crap out of the boat this weekend. 3/8 tank of fuel 26p Bravo 1 4950 rpm 72.5 GPS with just me in the boat. Amazing to me for this size of boat with only a stock 525 SC, 490hp with Lightning headers. I am going to remove the drive spacer this week and see what happens.

illMATTic
10-02-2006, 08:15 AM
thats movin' in a 30 footer.

panther150
10-02-2006, 03:03 PM
Nice setup, the 200xp is actually 225 hp stock(Evenrude's bass boat motor) did you check compression numbers before and after? will it still run on pump gas?

Costa
10-02-2006, 06:02 PM
Panther 150, 93 octane minimum with the dual plug heads, fuel quality was very critical. Siezed up no 6 cylinder on a bad batch of fuel (water in fuel):pissed: . I removed the heads and now they are a wall ornament in my garage I cannot take the chance of getting a crappy load of fuel again and spending another 2k in just parts to get her on the water again. The heads just allowed me to carry more passengers and still run the same topend, which running at those speeds I really was the only one that needed to be in the boat! It was a blast to drive tho, really snappy responce. :bigthumb: Stock compression on that motor is 95 psi with the heads it was 120psi.

panther150
10-02-2006, 08:53 PM
Thanks Costa, I'm trying to learn all I can about these OMC's . I've go an 89 evenrude special edition 225 with solid mounts, nosecone ,reeds and relieved offshore ehaust with the housing on the midsection I can open or close with two screws on the sides.It sounds like a bridgeport with it open.I'm still running the stock low compression, but can run regular gas. I'm running a 26 p raker prop I got with the motor right now, but look forward to trying a few different props in the spring.The motor I bought came off an 18ft Charger DL and although I think I've got my boat going about the same speed it did, the midrange acceleration is'nt as good . On the test ride before I bought it, we came into a bay out on Haliberton Lake at 5000rpm and about 70mph, the guy nailed it , the tach jumped to six grand nearly pushing me over the front seat.I don't know if this was just prop/setup or the fact the Charger may have been a lighter boat.

Costa
10-03-2006, 09:15 AM
Panther, There is not alot you can do to the rudes to get more top end without modding the internals. They really dont like anything over 6000rpm. May people have told me not to run it over 6k for more than 1 minute unless I want my internals to become externals!! To get more power your best bet would be to get in touch with Monte at www.montyracing.com (http://www.montyracing.com) he is the best in the country at modding reliable OMC's. I really love the sound of open exhaust on an outboard!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds like you have a sweet motor-:bigthumb: what kind of mate is she running on?

biomech
10-03-2006, 05:57 PM
Convincor 25 1987
Stock 454/330hp, 1.50:1, Ballistic 23.
57mph (GPS) with severe porpoising problems :(

I think the prop is totally wrong in the issue of porpoising?!

Next year i'm going to try with a 22p Bravo (4BL)

The engine is going to get an Edelbrock Performer Intake manifold and a Holley
4150 squarebore double pumper 750CFM to improve its characteristics.I don't think i'm going to get much higher in topspeed with theese upgrades but hopefully i'll get higher cruisingspeed and also get rid of the porpoising.

SneakyPete
10-03-2006, 06:27 PM
Bio - my enchanter used to porpoise at part throttle and a few passengers with a cleaver. I switched to a mirage and it never does it. Your avatar is awesome!!

Mich Pulse
10-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Tonight, 3 adults, cooler, over 1/2 tank, 63.7........Pulse 186 175 merc, 6" hydraulic plate run up 3" turning a 23 tempest plus at 5900...will give solo gps runs later this week.

Mich Pulse
10-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Forgot to metion it's pretty old 94'

boatn70
10-03-2006, 08:25 PM
Bio,
your on the right track with the bravo on that boat, my 242 with the 330 ran 57 all the time so i think your on the money!!
be careful jumping like that, dont hurt that drive on re-entry!!



98 convincor 242 sport
procharged 502
80.3mph gps

kevin

ladukeja
10-03-2006, 08:51 PM
49.1 on the GPS, with only me in the boat, and the gas tank pulled up to the front seats to get some trim out of it without porposing. It seems like all it spins is 5550-5600 rpm when we open it up. After that we get lots of chine walking. I have some thoughts on getting more speed out of it, but it feels alot faster than 49. :)

My dad bought a 90 horse merc to replace the 80's 700 merc that was on it when we bought the boat. It is quite a riot to drive and give my buddies rides.

biomech
10-04-2006, 03:35 PM
Bio,
your on the right track with the bravo on that boat, my 242 with the 330 ran 57 all the time so i think your on the money!!
be careful jumping like that, dont hurt that drive on re-entry!!



98 convincor 242 sport
procharged 502
80.3mph gps

kevin
allright...that sounds nice.
yeah, i know about the outdrive, i've tried to have engine @ idle on re-entry...
...but next year i'm going to put an Bravo drive on the boat.
And I don't always jump like that either ;)

But we had a lot of fun that day (avatar pic) there's a few more photos in this thread.
http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6697

panther150
10-04-2006, 07:02 PM
Panther, There is not alot you can do to the rudes to get more top end without modding the internals. They really dont like anything over 6000rpm. May people have told me not to run it over 6k for more than 1 minute unless I want my internals to become externals!! To get more power your best bet would be to get in touch with Monte at www.montyracing.com (http://www.montyracing.com) he is the best in the country at modding reliable OMC's. I really love the sound of open exhaust on an outboard!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds like you have a sweet motor-:bigthumb: what kind of mate is she running on?
My boat is a 17ft panther made by Quinns marine in Pefferlaw Ont, they bought the moulds off of Checkmate in the early eighties, it's the same a a V-mate II . I've got a high jacker hp six inch manual jackplate and dual cable ride glide steering.I'm taking some picks this weekend and I'll post them next week.Over the winter I'm having the front seats redone and replacing the carpet.

jgreen
10-04-2006, 10:48 PM
Forgot to metion it's pretty old 94'

1994 isn't that old.

supergenius74
10-05-2006, 12:11 PM
1988 starflite 1989 Merc 2.4 bridgeport EFI (240 hp stock)
22p quicksilver 3-blade chopper 8" extensions 5" jackplate
Jackplate all the way up, engine mounted on top holes
Bullet of CLE about 1" above the bottom of the boat
Front wall under deck and foam removed
Just me and nothing else in the boat, 70.5 GPS @ 7200 RPM
5 people, 2 coolers, a dog, a tube, tons of junk, 66 mph @ 6500 RPM
Very fast out of the hole, on plane in 3 seconds.
70 mph is scary to me so I don't think i will try to do more love this boat never selling it!

bigsbetter
10-05-2006, 02:20 PM
Tried a 27 Mirage. Went 3 mph slower and spun 100 rpm faster verses the 26 Bravo 1 4 blade....For sale 27 Mirage 3 blade good cond.$225.00 plus shipping.

themudshark
10-05-2006, 03:23 PM
nice pics on your web page of your starflite,mine did'nt come with the hood ornament though.heres mine '89 starflite with a 91 johnson 300hp v-8 now modified to 425hp mounted on a land&sea hydrulic jack plate run all the way up.nose cone and a 26p ballistic chopper prop with hot foot throttle 77mph on gps with more available still learning to keep it smooth at speed.As for the other posts in here about chine walking get the play out of the steering and just get more seat time you gotta learn to drive thru it.sounds crazy but it works.first times out could'nt get boat over 65 without chine walking but we're gettin there.lets go fast ye-hah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

justincase
10-07-2006, 08:15 PM
78 enchanter 21 ft ,327 chevy balanced and blue printed, holley 650, ballistic 22 prop, original merc outdrive.....67.3 mph

bigsbetter
10-08-2006, 09:21 PM
[quote=justincase]78 enchanter 21 ft ,327 chevy balanced and blue printed, holley 650, ballistic 22 prop, original merc outdrive.....67.3 mph[/quote....327...that's cool...

Big Dave
10-09-2006, 12:12 AM
New spedo pickup today and removed the hydrofoil, 5 teenagers, lots of ski's & full ice chest 63 on spedo still trim and throttle to go
5300+rpm 14.5 x 20p 4blade Mach Sterndriver
17'4" Diplomat I/O 5.7 chev
Need to find a cheap 23 mirage to try for top speed

justincase
10-09-2006, 09:19 AM
Thanks for the quote bigsbetter i thought it was cool too

illMATTic
10-09-2006, 01:41 PM
i was out this weekend. i brrowed a 30" hoss triton. i jacked the engine up a 1/2". i was able to seee 81.7 MPH @ 6400 rpm. that comes out to 15% slip. i may lower it back down 1/2" and see if it bites more. :bigthumb:

this hoss is a rocket out of the hole. there is minimal slip upon take off.

CHECK16
10-09-2006, 01:59 PM
07' 16' PULSARE 125 MERC 26 P LASER II 58.6 g.p.s.Not the fastest,but very fun in a small Check.No jack plate i wonder if that would help top end.

83PREDICTOR
10-09-2006, 02:37 PM
1983 PREDICTOR, 115 RUDE ONLY 48 MPH. I NEED HELP!

WILDMAN
10-09-2006, 11:03 PM
I just took a customers new 2007 2100 out today to break it in. After 3 hours we opened it up. It ran a little over 73 on Gps with two of us in it. As you can see by the pic, the Mercury speedo was a little optimistic. I took the pic with one hand while trying to drive with the other.

WILDMAN
10-09-2006, 11:07 PM
My personal 21 ran 90.8 with the 300x.

Adam L.
10-10-2006, 09:16 AM
I just took a customers new 2007 2100 out today to break it in. After 3 hours we opened it up. It ran a little over 73 on Gps with two of us in it. As you can see by the pic, the Mercury speedo was a little optimistic. I took the pic with one hand while trying to drive with the other.

That is a Beautiful boat. Love the white and yellow. Do you have any other shots of it?
Why is it that speedometers can be so far off? You would think the manufactures could calabrate them to be more acurate. Whats the point of having a non-gps speedo if it just lies to you. Theres a big difference between 73mph and 83mph. Dont get me wrong 73 is scooting along quite nice

boatman4021
10-10-2006, 11:13 AM
I have found that on stock speedo's, even the water temp. will can make them read higher or lower. It's hard to beat an in dash gps speedo! boatman

mboger
10-10-2006, 03:46 PM
1997 242 with a 7.4 and 5lbs of boost from a procharger turning a labbed 28 bravo one gps was 70.9 with half a tank of gas me and wife in it and full of gear

illMATTic
10-11-2006, 08:27 AM
I have found that on stock speedo's, even the water temp. will can make them read higher or lower. It's hard to beat an in dash gps speedo! boatman

my faria speedo is dead on up until 70 or so then the pitot breaks away.

bluehealer
10-12-2006, 08:16 PM
Closed bow,1999 225efi with the following mods:
-Rapair 250 ecu(rev limit 6450)
-300 air box(cowling mods to make fit,underside only)
-300 flywheel
-300 heads
-Wayne taylor reeds
Only ran once with the promax heads for about 10 minutes.Before the heads with all the other mods gps73.7 with a 23 Tempest at 6300rpms.After the heads 77.8 with a 26 4-blade yammi at 5700 rpms.I didnt have any more props with me,but naturally i needed to get my r's up to develop the horsepower i'm looking for.Put away for the year but i know there's 82mph in there.
Anybody need a 26 yammi 4-blade(it was checked out by Aquaholic)
$200 tyd.
Chris

F150GT
10-13-2006, 07:27 AM
89 Starflight with Pro-V 200 Yamaha turning a factory 25P Yamaha prop at 5800 rpm, me alone - 71.4 GPS. I'm happy with that.
F150GT

rcamp
10-31-2006, 03:40 AM
1997 283 twin 502/efi 29p Factory labbed mirage plus props. Tested yesterday 6" to 1' chop. 4900 rpm @ 80.1 mph gps. 2 adults full gear 1/2 tank gas. Factory speedo 86 mph. Hoping to see 85 mph gps with Stainless marine exhaust and Arizona Speed upgrade. Love this boat.

bigchuck
11-01-2006, 01:10 AM
still new to here i have a 78 checkmate trimate with a johnson 115 t&t it runs 65 on a good day

boatn70
11-09-2006, 08:36 AM
EDIT (to post #45 or so!)

242 Convincor
66 degrees
November 8th, 2006
83.6 best, 82.2 several times
procharged 502, 5psi boost

changed to 26 bravo to get the rpms up to around 5800, got em right there!!
plus the cooler temps im sure helped out!!
the midrange with the 26 is absolutely outrageous!!! pulls like you wouldnt imagine!!!! holy chit!!

Lang
11-09-2006, 12:53 PM
1980 Predictor II
2003 Johnson 115 4stroke
26p SS prop.
No jack plate
Runs 55MPH (ish) no GPS...I think it does a little more with a tail wind, and I sit up straight...ha

Not too bad for a 115.

Was hoping to get some advice (eventually) on getting the bottom of the boat worked on (not doing it myself)...Gel/paint or whatever.

claupie
11-09-2006, 04:37 PM
[QUOTE=illMATTic;402825]my faria speedo is dead on up until 70 or so then the pitot breaks away.[/QU i have seen in the past a stainless pitot ..does anyone know who sells them.i was told they dont break away,is that info correct ???

ffighter405
07-10-2007, 09:20 PM
ok guys. I am new to this and need help, I have a 82 entertainer with the merc 260 (350 chevy) so i am told,, it also have a marage 23p 3 blade prop, i want to know about how many RPM's this should run, the most i can get out of it right now is 3000 to 3100.. rpm's.. help me or am i expecting to much from this? Of course i am wanting it to be fast, what else. LOL.. and yes i use it for tubing and skiing..

Big Dave
07-10-2007, 10:56 PM
:welcome:

Merc says 4400 to 4800 wot
you should be able to pull a 23 to 41-4200 fairly easy
something else is wrong or prop is bad

stclairriverblaster
07-11-2007, 04:21 PM
well today went out and i got a top speed with two people in the boat of 61.5 mph. gps verified.

rpm was about 4900

prop is a high five. five bladed prop. not sure on pitch.

my big ass was in it 360 lbs

and my buddy.. 150lbs.

a full tank of gas

is that about right?

Jamey
07-11-2007, 04:43 PM
1980 Entertainer I/O, 260 hp Mercruiser ... quadrajet 4bbl carb. 60 mph GPS but it gets there in a big 'ole hurry. I have a Solas 21p aluminum prop. My stainless 21p prop was pretty banged up, but with it on I believe I might see 62-63 mph. I haven't tried running it with the windshield or bow tonneau cover on. Tonneau cover is dry rotted and I haven't had it remade.

dlcss396
07-11-2007, 09:31 PM
Gps 93 mph (on the trailer)

67 MPH GPS with Stock 260 merc I/O With 1/4 tank Of gas, light load, windshield and bow cover on. SS prop.

zstevens
07-11-2007, 10:26 PM
91 pulse 185 w 175 merc 91 w 21p lsaer ll 63 w 4 blade alm. 55 both w half fuel loaded w all gear cooler wife n 2 or 3 kids ! as stated b4 i run the slower of the props better all around .

ffighter405
07-11-2007, 10:29 PM
Thank you very much!!! At least I now know what to expect.. i would guess that i need to work on trimming the boat better, Stock engine SS 3 blade marige 23p prop,,, i would say its the operator. LOL oh well live and learn!!!

Jamey
07-12-2007, 12:12 AM
Ffighter, you got any pictures you can post of your Entertainer?

Chris E
07-12-2007, 09:28 AM
had the predictor up to 60mph - that was on the highway behind the van though!:rof:

2benchanted
07-12-2007, 01:29 PM
78 enchanter with 12 in set back bracket hung on it it a stock 1976 200 rude with high comp heads turning a 24 pitch 4 blade prop that is cupped 3.5 inches below the pad. 4800rpm 56 mph gps with 5 people cooler full 15 gall of gas on a small lake.Intake stuffers on the way hoping for more.:bigthumb:

twright55
07-12-2007, 02:33 PM
'82 Eluder (19 ft) with a 470 (3.7l) 4 cyl. Mercruiser I/O. 23p ss cleaver prop.

No GPS, but my paddle wheel says 58 and speedo says 55 at 4400rpm with just me and a full tank of gas...so maybe about 50 in reality? Dunno.
I have a 21p Hustler prop I am going to try out as soon as I get the proper hub and washer for it.

ffighter405
07-12-2007, 10:40 PM
not many right now, but if you want send me a email and i can send you some....

JBS
07-12-2007, 11:09 PM
Best speed so far has been 69mph with a 4 blade ballistic prop

posta
07-22-2007, 10:00 PM
I had raced my 79 trimate with a johnson 140 v4 against a fishing boat with a johnson 150 gt v6. I was faster the first 50 yards or so, but the 150 had me by half a boat length at about 100 yards. The water was choppy and I had a ton of stuff in the bow, not including a full tank of gas.

wizard8575
07-22-2007, 10:17 PM
well my mate might do about 2 or 3 mph if I run past it depending on how energetic I am at the time. It should go faster when I get the lower unit.:rof:

85sportfire
07-22-2007, 11:19 PM
'78 Convincer
Ford 302 H.O.
Currently replacing stringers and floor,
As fast as I want to tow it.


Replacing interior in my sportfire, currently my f-250 has gotten it to 75 (speedo).

revlimiter776
07-23-2007, 06:49 PM
my 74 trv 16 has done it's best at 51 mph gps with a 140 looper, currently i have 4" of setback 3" below the keel (no pad) and a 85 115 merc tower, 24" laser prop,a dog @47 mph, i am going to add a pad to this barge

supergenius74
07-23-2007, 07:38 PM
Not fast enough, took some friends out sunday and scared the poop out of them, i got 66.5 with 4 people in the boat, not bad. Best was 70+ with just me.

jwh445
08-02-2007, 04:05 PM
Pulsare 1850BR, Mercury Optimax 175, 5.5 jackplate, 4.5 below pad, timmed out in smooth water, 66.7mph (GPS);

http://family.webshots.com/photo/2257659780092589001qbESIi?vhost=family

fiftyp
08-02-2007, 09:54 PM
1992 pulse186, 93 Merc 200 stock, laserII 25 pitch 5.5" below pad = 68 MPH

10" jackplate and 26p chopper on the way...:lol:

stclairriverblaster
08-03-2007, 01:23 AM
60mph.

21 pitch cleaver. at 5800 rpm.. i think i need more prop.. anyone want a 21 pitch.

Combat Rock
08-03-2007, 07:12 PM
60mph on the lie-o-meter
fast enough to blow bikini tops Off!!!:bigthumb:


1984 enticer, 85' evinrude V4 140HP
2.5'' setback, 3 below the pad
26p laser 2 5800 rpms

maybe a new vmax 150 next year!!!!!

83PREDICTOR
08-03-2007, 07:30 PM
60mph on the lie-o-meter
fast enough to blow bikini tops Off!!!:bigthumb: !!!!!





YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN BOUT

stclairriverblaster
08-03-2007, 09:21 PM
i actually found that my lie-o-meter is accurate up to sixty.. how do i know only sixty cause thats as fast as i can go.

had a scare today.

was out. st clair river again.. wot. the motor bogged and as i looked back i hit a set of rollers and almost sideflipped/backflipped the boat.. the driver rear corner hit and then the nose went under( aka a stuff) even though it was a minor one.. and wwater went flyin over the nose. i had about 1/4 boat full of water. lets just say i was bilging for awhile

Combat Rock
08-03-2007, 11:33 PM
thats beyond a scare,
i think id have a load in my pants

you cant be too careful at these speeds
I had a bit of a scare 2 weeks ago
I was flyin back towards bemus point on chuatauqa lake
and I looked back just for a second, when i turned back
i found that i was headed straight for a windsurfer in the middle of the lake
it wasnt that close but close enough to make ya think.

safe boating!

stclairriverblaster
08-04-2007, 12:15 AM
yeah.. i wasnt quite to that point.. but it definatly woke me up.. just when you think your comfortable wiht something.. and have it down pat. the min you loose respect for it it bites you in the ass.. lets just say im very lucky..

but that feeling when your just barely touching the water. sort of in a floating limbo.. its extacy.. its addicting and thats what im in this for..

people say boating is stupid and pointless. they just havent experienced what boating is truely about.

dfarina
08-04-2007, 02:13 AM
I can proudly say after today, replaced the stringer and floor... put the two buckets seats and a half a tank of fuel... 49 mph on the GPS with a 14x19 aluminum prop and 33 year old Ford 302 that has never had more then the starboard side head replaced. Been waiting two years to get this damn thing back on the water... Next work is re-doing the metal flake. Anyone want to help...Brown with Gold?

Ray Zuelke
08-05-2007, 07:56 PM
IZ,

I am running similar rigging, just not getting your good results. Specifically,
21'

Ray Zuelke
08-05-2007, 08:08 PM
21' Pulsare
250 Pro XS - 175 - 1
27 P Tempest
10" CMC Hyd. Jack Plate
2" below Pad
73.9 GPS
5700 rpm

Hard to drive at w.ot. - I seem to be getting better.

Planning on one or more of the following options:

Replace Sea Star cylinder with Sea Star Pro HP

More set back

Merc Trophy Prop - pitch 28 or larger - talking wiht DAH on this

What am I missing? My goal is 80 GPS

JZ Mate

winter
08-05-2007, 10:41 PM
Nothing to brag about, 87 Starflite, 200hp Rude, 24p generic ss prop and lite on fuel, 64mph GPS and trimmed to the heavens :lol:

rowdy1
08-07-2007, 10:55 AM
89 starliner w/ MAD EFI/ TAYLOR MARINE 3.6 GT V8. V6 lower unit, 6inch setback, 27p srx chopper, prop shaft c/l level with bottom of boat. With wife & kids---50mph. Any faster & my wife grabs a hand full of leg hair. Just me, 10 gallons of fuel 86 on gps. I have a 29p srx prop but I have blown the lower unit twice trying to get on plane with it. It chine walks at about 63 but if you gas-it you can drive right through.

dogschool
08-07-2007, 11:24 AM
'89 Convincor 251 - 454 mag w/ performance upgrades
(roller rockers/roller cam-hi perf intake and exhaust)
roughly 400 hp - 23p 3 blade SS prop - 67 mph gps
top speed - thats solo and low on fuel.:thumb:

remlinger
08-24-2007, 03:51 PM
'88 Enchanter
Stock 350 260hp
Running 4400 rpm at full out
25p Mirage

Last year clocked on gps at 68mph. Looking to run better this year with completly rebuilt transom plate after roasting the bearings this spring.

illMATTic
08-24-2007, 09:24 PM
76 all day long w/a 26 laserII. i have seen a c/h under 82 with a 30 hoss.

SippyRat
08-25-2007, 12:16 PM
TOO SLOW for me but it's still fun:

1987 Diplomat open bow
2006 4.3 I/O
23p SS Mirrage 3 blade
56 MPH @ 4800 RPM

Great East Predictor
09-05-2007, 08:16 PM
Won't get me a steak dinner, but I'm up to 84.8 with a 28 chopper.

fiftyp
09-16-2007, 08:06 PM
73 Gps ..... Gettin there.

hotbeek
09-17-2007, 09:52 AM
I think I finally got my ECU's dialed in. I have a 2000 2100 Pulsare BR. I have 13 1/2" of setback. I run a warmed up 225EFI.(some Simon Motorsports upgrades) I spin a 25 Trophy Plus @ 6200rpms for a best max speed of 80.1mph GPS. I'm still prop testing to see where I hit my best topspeed. Hopefully I can report back in a week with better results.

hotbeek
09-20-2007, 02:45 PM
Tried a 26 Trophy Plus, spun it it 6000 rpms for a new top speed of 80.4 mph GPS. Sent prop off to prop shop for clean and polish.

Stay tuned ! MAD EFI intake on the way. I'll throw in some carbon fiber reeds then. I optimistically hope for 83-84 by the time I get ECU's dialed in. :thumb:

PapaMaC
05-11-2008, 05:08 PM
My Spectra 170 BR with a Johnson 120hp got a whole 45mph gps @ 5600rpm, lol. At least she's easy on the gas! I'm hoping to get to 50+ after some small modifications.

ross
05-11-2008, 07:50 PM
still early in the season yet but the best i've seen is 63.7gps at 2inches prop shaft height but more to come!!!!!:bigthumb:

Needafunboat
05-12-2008, 11:03 PM
I'll keep this old thread going --- 26p trophy on the starliner w/ 1997 225 EFI - 8 people, not trimmed out much on a short lake - a searing 56mph on GPS. But it was as stable as a train. I think there could me more in it - my first tweaks will be to get at least 5 of those people out and see what that little toggle on the side of the throttle is for...

81 enchanter
05-13-2008, 08:26 AM
seen 67.8on gps with a 23p vengence prop and me and one other in the boat.

lcboater
05-13-2008, 07:56 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words--30' Convincor--Fully Loaded with Fuel--Three Adults--Fast Enough?http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn141/lorigill_photos/attachment.jpg

JKH
05-13-2008, 10:29 PM
I,ve got a totally stock 87 Sportfire I/O with a 4L 205 M/C. Runs a solid 60 with 4 of us and a full tank. Running a standard aluminum prop but would like to put something else on any suggestions?

Wide Open
05-16-2008, 09:24 AM
Which boat? I have 4. LOL 08 Pulsare 1850 w/115 E-tec, 6" setback runs 50.2 w/20" Raker. 08 Pulsare 2000 w/E-tec 225HO 6" setback runs 76.8 w/26" Raker II. 08 ZT 260 w/496HO runs 68.6 w/25" Mirage (going to try a labbed 24 Bravo...looking for 70. May go to a shorty drive and try some spacers), and an 08 Convincor 270BR w/496MAG running 61 w/stock 24 Bravo. Still playing with props on that one too.

Wide Open
05-16-2008, 09:28 AM
IC....I hope your buddy didn't hit his head on the platform when he popped up from holding the air gun on the speedo pickup LOL!! Just had to give you a hard time brotha. :poke: Get the tach in the picture next time.:thumb:


A picture is worth a thousand words--30' Convincor--Fully Loaded with Fuel--Three Adults--Fast Enough?http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn141/lorigill_photos/attachment.jpg

lcboater
05-16-2008, 11:32 AM
the engine was turning 4900 when the picture was taken.

themudshark
05-16-2008, 03:59 PM
nice pics on your web page of your starflite,mine did'nt come with the hood ornament though.heres mine '89 starflite with a 91 johnson 300hp v-8 now modified to 425hp mounted on a land&sea hydrulic jack plate run all the way up.nose cone and a 26p ballistic chopper prop with hot foot throttle 77mph on gps with more available still learning to keep it smooth at speed.As for the other posts in here about chine walking get the play out of the steering and just get more seat time you gotta learn to drive thru it.sounds crazy but it works.first times out could'nt get boat over 65 without chine walking but we're gettin there.lets go fast ye-hah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!time to fix my old post .since this post iI have found out my boat is a Spectra not a Starflite,and have added Seastar pro steering boat is so tight my best runs to date are 81.4 gps at sealeval no chine walk:bigthumb: Also my boat is up for boat of the month check it out:banana:

lcboater
05-17-2008, 07:48 PM
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn141/lorigill_photos/attachment2.jpg

Never thought anything about getting a picture of the tach in the shot; was thinking about keeping the wife in the boat!!! lol:)

JW
05-18-2008, 08:23 AM
Great photo! Looks CLEAN. Be an even better pic if you had a GPS stuck to the dash showing the digital number of your speed. I remember my Pulsare speedo was buried past 85 mph while my GPS read 74.....:p

And my wife gives me the stink-eye when I get up around 45 mph! :rof:

kurt74
05-26-2008, 11:10 PM
Had my 1998 242 sport with hp500 and bravo I with 26 pitch, in lite ripples on the water at 70.1mph on gps at 5000rpm with the drive out at 2, and a full tank of fuel and the wife

C-mate 280
05-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Pulse 186 1996
Merc 2.5 Liter 280 hp
Sportmaster lower unit.
Lightning ET 24 inch prop, lab-finished.
CMC jack plate 10 inches set back, prop centerline 1/2 inch below pad.
Hot Foot throttle, steering wheel placed trim and jack plate switches.
Bow rider canvas cover on, (good for 3 MPH) .

89.5 MPH GPS @ 7800 rpm in perfect cool light load conditions. 86 under normal conditions with passengers.
No chine walking, runs straight as an arrow but still too much positive trim is needed to go over 87 so more prop experimentation is needed or more set back. I'll try props first, any suggestions?

bbrad
07-09-2008, 10:37 PM
O.K. 79 ENCHANTER/87 3.6GT 275HP, BEING FRESH'ND NOW WILL GET NEW PROP FROM,BOATMAN SOON. :yell: HOPE TO HAVE A BAD CASE OF[ PREMAGRIN] THIS HAPPENS AT AROUND 100 MPH.LOL LATER BRAD

bdusted440
07-10-2008, 12:32 PM
84 ambasador
350 mag
viper 23 prop= 68.2 gps
one person 1/4 tank of gas

bigsbetter
07-10-2008, 01:05 PM
Update for this year. I've changed my blower pulley, which is sopposed to add 1.5-2lbs more boost. I haven't checked it yet. I only gained about 1 mph. Speedo says 73mph and gps just barley hits 70. My gps does not store the highest speed so that kinda sucks. It still amazes me that when talking to people on the beaches and docks, and asking them about their boats and how fast they are. People say 75mph or push'n 80. And then we race, and I beet them......I guess it is truly amazing how much a GPS really weighs!

fletch
07-10-2008, 01:12 PM
I've got a 350 mag in my maxxum 223 and I just can't get past 52mph!! what the hell? any suggestions would be fanastic! other than spending another boat load of cash for a blower...:sick:

bigsbetter
07-10-2008, 07:34 PM
fletch, Tell us your rpm numbers and prop size and pitch. What year is the boat and engine. What outdrive do you have?

zachp13
07-11-2008, 07:58 PM
89 Starflite with a 3.0L 225 and a 23 Trophy plus, hit 64 at the limiter. I also ran a 23 TRO4 at the limiter 64.3. I am thinking about getting a 25 trophy plus to get my RPM's down, but I do alot of skiing behind the boat and I think that might be a dog coming out of the hole with a skier in tow.

wca_tim
07-12-2008, 10:51 PM
88 diplomat i/o , 75-76 gps

(handheld gps, was too busy driving to get careful read, be conservative and call it 75 for now)

Fresh 383, with forged internals, world products heads, edelbrock torker intake and 750 cfm carb, imco powerflows (with mufflers... for now...), alpha drive, 1.81 gears, best speed was with hydromotive quad iv 29" at ca. 5200 rpms with two people, skis, full tank of gas,toolbox, etc... and we got out of it before it stopped accellerating. After that I propped down to Mirage plus 27" for now to pull skiers, boarders, etc... and so I'm not running a solid hub prop on the river where its not unheard of to hit things once in a while... the slightly lower pitch also puts a little less strain on upper gearcase. (wishfull thinking I'm sure).

I've only got 10 hours or so on the new engine and will be playing more with props and set up in a few weeks. Thinking I can eventually get a good bit more out of it if i widen the pad and bring the propshaft up a bit. not trivial things, but fun to play with... Also considering adding 1/2 to 3/4 inch to the pad and widening it to 10 - 12 inches, perhaps adding a little to the inner most two strakes to see if I can get it all the way up on the pad at higher speeds. Right now though it has very good manners. cornered like on rails with the hydromotive, no chinewalk at high speed, just felt a little loose when trimmed out too far. have been too busy working to run it hard with the mirage yet and have a feeling that I'll find much better props for top end down the road...

btw, I love the "smarttabs" I put on it. I can hold an even plane down to aroun 12-14 mph pulling boarders and it handles rougher water A LOT better... like adding a couple feet when in 1-2+ foot "chop" out on the open river...

kingsbiship
07-16-2008, 12:07 PM
I took the XRi off this little Predictor and put the 115 Merc. back on, then sold it! I, for
the life of me, couldn't master the speed of it! In the high 70s it was so squirrely I could
only fly for a few seconds, never reaching full WOT! So, I did myself a favor...
It could have been the bottom wasn't straight (what I was told)

captainmorgan
08-16-2008, 10:28 PM
it aint always speed that counts. its comfort and feeling safe at speed. ive seen most my friends break loose around 65+, but its feeling safe and solid once you break the 70 mark. i can tell you a few pointers that every check owner needs to know.

captainmorgan
08-16-2008, 10:37 PM
ive had gps speeds vary from plus or minus 15 mph. ive not been able to hit 69.9, but when the handheld flew out the hand, it said 79 for a split second. has anyone else had a variety of speeds, and ill tell you what my enchanter 21 does when were overdosing on adrenalin. it depends on the wind, chop, and conditition of the captain

captainmorgan
08-16-2008, 10:57 PM
hey thats good. when you really have a good ride, its not a ride, its a flight, and ive noticed with my tunnel that it acts like a small airplane does. ive flown lots of flights on little cesnas, and when i get that side ways , you know, going straight ahead, but boat looking like its trying to turn left, like a vehicle looks like its riding sideways down the road, well, i havnt had either one of my friends tell me what the gps said, and matter a fact, they cant say nothing once i stop. one thing they all have in common is that their cheeks are sore, and knees are shaking. tell you what people. i watch that vid of n y ronnie and it blows my mind, but im getting rides that are making me and my friends feel sick from adrenalin, and im just breaking 80

captainmorgan
08-16-2008, 11:08 PM
i cant find many folks who want to fly on my boat with me but i let 2 i dropped off at the cabin take this one, so they would know they were with me that day. gotta bait um in with that nectar:cheers

hankster1001
08-17-2008, 09:31 PM
1988 Vision 221, with a 454 stock engine, 365 hp. 3 blade, SS Mirage prop, 25 pitch. Me, Gina, CeCelia and 3/4 tank of gas (30 gals). 73 mph @ 4900 rpm. Still had more to go but boat felt loose. I had a huge grin on my face. :D Speedo appears to be accurate when against the GPS. Love my checkmate. Hankster

andrew2131
08-18-2008, 09:44 AM
hello illMATTic,just bought a 88 starflite 200 evinrude would like to get speed like yours.not sure what a jack plate or spacers are or what pitch prop i need.i dont know anything about outboard motor performance.i always had io's.im also new to this fourm and not sure how to use it yet but trying to figure it out...if you have time to reply it would be greatly appricated.you can reply here and ill try to find it or my email is ajc31@verizon.net or ph# is 814 504 2131.your matching boat and truck look awsome together:) thanks for your time,andrew

speedrooky
09-02-2008, 12:51 PM
Just picked up a 21 enchanter with 225 merc and man. plate. I've had 1986 sportfire 140 johnson (58mph gps) and 1986 convincor 383 (62mph gps). what kind of mph should i get out of this combo? is the enchanter a good hull compared to the sportfire? I will be getting the boat next week.

Reed
09-02-2008, 01:26 PM
I want to know if I have my set-up right ? I have a 6in jack plate and when it is all the way down I mounted my 200hp 2.4 in the bottom set of holes that are avaliable on the Merc mounting plate and this puts my Bob's Nose Cone about 4 - 6 in below the point of the keel and I ran a 26 pitch Cleaver and I went 52.6 mph on GPS at 8,000 rpm didn't stay in it long cause I know the 2.4 doesn't like those rrrr'sss. ( I think I need a 28 pitch and I don't think my Trimate II is getting enough lift ) :)

253 SED
09-04-2008, 05:46 AM
1997 Convincer 253.....80.1 at 4900 revs on GPS...am still playing...is alot more left on the top end..just need to get prop labbed...

bluehealer
09-06-2008, 07:18 PM
GPS'd 85mph today while out with Hotbeek on the Fox river in Wrightstown.
6200rpm's with a 28 labbed Trophy,more to come!
Bluehealer

wnc435
09-17-2008, 10:59 PM
1976 Inmate I 351W Pro action alum. heads,Intake, Mech. roller cam, Isky roller lifters, 650 Holley carb. Stainless watercooled exhaust, trim tabs, 19 deg. Ballistic prop. 4600 rpm 61 mph GPS.need more prop. Still playing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

checkmate 250
09-24-2008, 01:24 PM
GPS 88.9 today with new set up.

mikehagan@pacbell.ne
09-24-2008, 04:41 PM
2005 280ZT

615 Horsepower
added hydro steering (handles much better)
Best yet 76MPH on GPS
Still teaking it, should go 85

winter
09-24-2008, 09:02 PM
1992 Checkmate Persuader 234 open bow, rebuilt 454 mag, .060 over with all forged components, SLP pistons, mild cam, 750 Edelbrock and cleaned-up stock heads spinning a 1.5r Bravo1 with 23p solos prop, 71 mph GPS at around 4800 rpm.

Cheap prop and only second time out in new boat, so i'm sure there is a 72 - 75mpg run in there with some extra time and $$$ :)

Big Red
09-24-2008, 10:58 PM
2005 280ZT

615 Horsepower
added hydro steering (handles much better)
Best yet 76MPH on GPS
Still teaking it, should go 85

What size engine and prop do you have

convincor242
09-28-2008, 12:03 PM
555 inch 700 hp chevy xr drive sportsmaster lower 90.2 mph on best day 87 every day.Went 101 with a blown 540 but I broke it alll the time.

convincor242
09-28-2008, 12:06 PM
555 inch 700 hp chevy xr drive sportsmaster lower 90.2 mph on best day 87 every day 5600 rpm with labbed 28.Went 101 with a blown 540 but I broke it alll the time.

Kelly O
09-28-2008, 12:26 PM
GPS recall shows 100. It is for sale here and listed on Offshoreonly.com.
See Checkmate Listings here "Blown Milk Check".

Keytime
09-28-2008, 12:33 PM
72.2 GPS yesterday with two people and gear aboard. 1999 283 Convincor w/ twin 454 EFI Mags. I have some work to do in getting it up to my goal of 80.

zachp13
09-29-2008, 10:21 PM
I have a starflite with a 3.0L 225. I had a 23 trophy that I was hitting the limiter with at 64.2. I just picked up a labbed 25 hydromotive and got a quick run in this evening. I was at 68 in smooth water, so there is definately more to go. With fast water and some practive driving, I think I can hit 70.

mat_staytonhd
10-22-2008, 09:38 PM
78' enchanter running 350 i/o 23 pitch cleaver...... 51.8 GPS

Skip 7750
10-22-2008, 11:48 PM
2007 2100BR, 225 HO Evinrude on 6" Jackplate. Ran at Lake Mead 2 people full tank, 1120ft elevation, 85 degree air, 85 degree water, 25 TRO-4 prop @5750= 66mph. Speed is on a digital GPS speedo and a digital tach.

I feel that with cooler air and water, 1 person and a light load of fuel, it would probably go about 71 or 72 Gps at sea level.

I love this boat and motor combo. It is a torque monster and is so quiet, you can barely hear it idle. At 6750 ft (Big Bear Lake) it will still run within about 10% of what it runs at Mead.

The boat does everything that I wanted it to do. It rides and handles like a dream, It is super quiet, and it is a comfy dry ride that uses so little fuel, I can't believe it. Best boat that I ever owned.

Big Red
10-23-2008, 12:44 AM
I have a starflite with a 3.0L 225. I had a 23 trophy that I was hitting the limiter with at 64.2. I just picked up a labbed 25 hydromotive and got a quick run in this evening. I was at 68 in smooth water, so there is definately more to go. With fast water and some practive driving, I think I can hit 70.

Very nice mph jump with a prop change http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/images/smilies/boat.gif

checkmate22convincer
11-27-2008, 01:43 AM
1996 220 convincer, mercruiser 7.4L bravo one 1:50 drive, 25 pitch mirage, gil exhaust, edelbrock intake, 750 holley dual feed dual pump carb & gil hp flame arrester. Runs 64-66 on gps @ 4600 rpm depending on conditions, will update once I get 27 pitch lab finished mirage from merc lab, should pickup 2-3mph I'm told.

JW
11-27-2008, 07:14 AM
My 4th 'Mate is the slowest one to date, BUT, it's also the cheapest to own and operate :p

57 mph GPS spinning an aluminum prop and the motor is mounted all the way down on the transom :rof:

Rob B
11-27-2008, 08:11 AM
1996 Pulse170 w/1999 Mercury 200 EFI 6" Jackplate spinning a 25P Tempest plus GPS 74mph. With a new floor in I should gain about 2 mph.:D

JW
11-27-2008, 09:07 AM
1996 Pulse170 w/1999 Mercury 200 EFI 6" Jackplate spinning a 25P Tempest plus GPS 74mph. With a new floor in I should gain about 2 mph.:D


Do you have a factory bow cover for it yet? THAT is the single best thing you can do to make a bow-rider faster. When I went from 6" setback to 10" and added the bow-cover to my 2100BR, I went from 68 mph to 74 mph with no other changes. I know the JP didn't add much, it was all that bow-cover.

Rob B
11-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Do you have a factory bow cover for it yet? THAT is the single best thing you can do to make a bow-rider faster. When I went from 6" setback to 10" and added the bow-cover to my 2100BR, I went from 68 mph to 74 mph with no other changes. I know the JP didn't add much, it was all that bow-cover.

I don't have a bow cover yet, but that is on list to get.

Reed
11-27-2008, 08:42 PM
I have yet to get top speed..... 59-63 on gps and I have yet to get the right prop that won't Blow out at some point I have tried 24,26,27,28 and she is still slipping way to much so next season I will try a 29 - 30 pitch ( sorry to all I lost the pics I had of the tests this fall I have a 3.5 floppy drive Sony Mactiva great pics but a disc malfunction and I lost all the great pics I had a great one of a 75ft rooster ) she is still turning 7500-8000 at the speed I got grrr

Reed
11-27-2008, 08:45 PM
I have yet to get top speed..... 59-63 on gps and I have yet to get the right prop that won't Blow out at some point I have tried 24,26,27,28 and she is still slipping way to much so next season I will try a 29 - 30 pitch ( sorry to all I lost the pics I had of the tests this fall I have a 3.5 floppy drive Sony Mactiva great pics but a disc malfunction and I lost all the great pics I had a great one of a 75ft rooster ) she is still turning 7500-8000 at the speed I got grrr

* I have even tried re mounting the motor on the jack plate to get more range of travel have put it up to 2.5 in below keel to all the way down not much change *

yellowfiero88
11-27-2008, 11:59 PM
1986 21' enchanter I/O. Hit 75mph GPS with no motor, outdrive, gas tank, or interior on the way to winter storage:lol: All joking aside I will have a update this spring sometime with the new 355 SBC. With the old 260hp I hit 60 before I shut her down because the block was spewing water so bad from the freeze damage cracks. Still had some in her without a doubt but didnt want to blow her up in the middle of the river.

schlosser1
07-07-2009, 02:59 PM
88 ambassador 454 330hp bravo1 23p x 14 5/8 mirage prop. just me in the boat no bow cover on it ran 63 on gps trimmed up i think it should be a little faster???:confused:

Reed
07-07-2009, 03:15 PM
* I have even tried re mounting the motor on the jack plate to get more range of travel have put it up to 2.5 in below keel to all the way down not much change *

~Replaced tac with a factory one~, Tested boat on a Ruff water day --White Caps--.. I ran away from the wind , 5000rpm-- 63mph on GPS 1/2 throttle left / Chine walk has been eliminated.. on a glass smooth day I will see 75 +mph~ 28pitch Britts cut =Drag prop- chopper style -- 240-250hp 2.4 Merc Black Max ;) I can't wait till I get glass on the lake to run her full out :)

JUPITER PULSARE
07-07-2009, 05:09 PM
Pulsare 2100 Long Deck/stock 3 liter Mercury 225Xri, 13.5" setback, Trophy Plus 26, Full tank & two adults...77.0 MPH on Garmin GPS. More to come!!

sclemons
07-07-2009, 07:17 PM
93 persuader 219, 454 bored .30 over (461) eagle 4340 crank, SRP 9-1 pistons, comp roller came, hyd roller lifters, roller rockers, pro comp rectangular port aluminum heads, weiand 177 blower w/ 5.6 lbs boost, dominator 1050 carb, stock mercury/malory optical distributor.
Dyno'd at 611 hp at 5500 rpm w/ timing advance set at 32 btdc
601 hp at 5500 rpm w/ timing total advance set at 30 btdc
and 640 ft lb torque at 3800 rpm. I run it at 30 btdc since the exhaust valves start to run a little hot with any more advance and I want it to last. Outdrive is Bravo one with IMCO improvements and drive shower, 26p labbed bravo one prop, dual trim tabs, IMCO advantage power steering, oil and power steering cooler.
First fast run after rebuild I passed 80 gps, not sure how much past due to the need to watch where I was going (my gps does not record max speed, it only registers real time)

Big Red
07-07-2009, 07:40 PM
93 persuader 219, 454 bored .30 over (461) eagle 4340 crank, SRP 9-1 pistons, comp roller came, hyd roller lifters, roller rockers, pro comp rectangular port aluminum heads, weiand 177 blower w/ 5.6 lbs boost, dominator 1050 carb, stock mercury/malory optical distributor.
Dyno'd at 611 hp at 5500 rpm w/ timing advance set at 32 btdc
601 hp at 5500 rpm w/ timing total advance set at 30 btdc
and 640 ft lb torque at 3800 rpm. I run it at 30 btdc since the exhaust valves start to run a little hot with any more advance and I want it to last. Outdrive is Bravo one with IMCO improvements and drive shower, 26p labbed bravo one prop, dual trim tabs, IMCO advantage power steering, oil and power steering cooler.
First fast run after rebuild I passed 80 gps, not sure how much past due to the need to watch where I was going (my gps does not record max speed, it only registers real time)

:thumb: What rpms are you turning at 80

gwcpa
07-07-2009, 07:56 PM
Pulsare 2400/225 opti Pro XS, 23 tempest, 10 inch CMC

Hit 65.3 once in chop down wind, otherwise 64.3 with full fuel, cooler.

5700 rpm

Very stable and lots of fun, slight side to side rock if over trimmed in calm water.

Need to re-rig and save for a 300 XS to move into the 70s.

LAPLANT
07-07-2009, 09:35 PM
just went 77.3 on a 28 pitch half tank of gas cooler and a buddy in the boat GOD I LOVE MY 2.5:surf:

chrisMX-15
07-07-2009, 09:41 PM
Hi ALL!! i have a question i had a 3 cyl 70 horse on boat now have a 6 cyl 115 are the tachs the same?????? 6cyl is running on the 70hrs tack and running 5000 WOT need help both motors are merc's

LAPLANT
07-07-2009, 09:46 PM
no the tachs wont read the same ther should be a selector switch for the amount of clls you have or a certain num. of wires to you signal wire to be connectrd

chrisMX-15
07-07-2009, 09:50 PM
The plugs looked the same so there should be switch like on after market car tach. 4cy 6cy and 8cy (car) 3cy 6cy andetc for a boat? and thanks for teh answer i will check in am thought when boat was running didnt feel right to only be running 5g's? but most teh tach are the same why though right and if i have the wires instead of a switch how do i go about changing them?

hotbeek
07-07-2009, 10:23 PM
I've been dialing in my current setup. Best so far is 89.1 gps. I hope to see 90 by the weekend. If I do there will be video ! :cheers:

NOYZEE
07-09-2009, 11:39 AM
up date mine to 62mph fully loaded with warm weather. i think the prop finnally helped after all the back and forth. hope the cool weather in the fall gains a tad more. we'll see

sclemons
07-09-2009, 10:17 PM
hi red - had it out today with a passenger - hit 82.4 gps @ 5100 rpm - 3/4 tank of fuel and the two of us (190 lbs + 205 lbs) god I love this boat

Big Red
07-10-2009, 12:08 AM
hi red - had it out today with a passenger - hit 82.4 gps @ 5100 rpm - 3/4 tank of fuel and the two of us (190 lbs + 205 lbs) god I love this boat

Holly Molly are you running a 1.5 drive gear because with a 26p prop at 5100. rpms at 82.4 comes up to.015 prop slip and thats awesome hooking :thumb:

1.5 gears with 26p prop at 5100 with 10% slip would be 75 mph man your boat hooks good you cant get no Convincor to hook that good.

sclemons
07-11-2009, 12:42 PM
I'm not sure what gearing I've got, all I know is I pissed off my passenger to the point he wants to sell his jet boat and get a prop drive. His jet boat has more HP than mine (706hp vs 601hp) but I'm faster. believe it or not I'm even faster out of the hole than he is. And yes, he knows how to drive it very well. I,m glad to see your impressed, thank you

SrA Eason
08-18-2009, 09:05 AM
115 hp mercury gps 47

robwkamm
08-18-2009, 11:33 AM
1989 senator. all stock. 350 /270hp alpha 1. 59mph on a gps. over 60 on the speedo(damb that doesnt count does it? LOL)

jmajor
08-25-2009, 05:08 PM
I have a 1999 240 zt 7.4 ltr mpi.3 blade 23 solaris i can get up to 64 with just me in it. is there any ideas out there to make it go faster? thanks.

wca_tim
08-25-2009, 08:13 PM
updated... 88 Diplomat, 383 small block max 77 mph with 1.8 gear alpha drive turning 27" mirage or 28" mach 4 sterndriver labbed and with diffuser ring cut off. Think I have power to go even faster, but am running into gearcase blowout. Once we get past the blowout, it'll be time to put a 1.65 gear upper and the sternjack on... :brickwall:

a typical rainy afternoon on the river...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Izi3v75jTs

jammasterj787
08-26-2009, 02:58 PM
I got a top speed of 60 at 4200 jumping out of the water like im on a trampoline.................lots of prop testing to do :brickwall:

mattschaff
08-27-2009, 10:58 AM
1977 V-Mate-I 14 ft. closed in bow with 1980 Evinrude 85 = 73 KM/H (45.36 MPH) with defects in hull (gouges and scrapes)

captainmorgan
08-29-2009, 12:37 AM
if i could have got one of those girls to quit crying and sit on my motor the other day for the hour ride in after i hit whatever knocked the stainless blade off my 24 chopper at 6 k rpm, than ill continue to smile that it didnt happen at 75k rpm, and i can laugh about my hula dancing wobbling handgrenade, and the ratio of gear cases, pistons, and smiles i get, in one summer. wait till winter...:drool:

captainmorgan
08-29-2009, 12:43 AM
if i hadnt set up my enchanter like i did, ide be dead, so would my passengers. setup, control, and whiskey. haha.were lucky, us damned fools. im going need it when you see wuts next.

captainmorgan
08-29-2009, 12:49 AM
murphys prop shop might be able to fix my 4 cleaver i crippeled when i hit an engine on the bottom of the creek, i hope, cause im trying to avoid putting a 3 litre on my smilemaker.

70SS454
09-07-2009, 05:17 PM
hi guys..im a new guy here

88 starliner
87 second effort offshore limited Johnson V8
sea star hydraulic steering redundant system to integral power steering
bobs machine shop jackplate + mazco spacers ==> about 8 " backspace
mazco 28" round ear
all gear removed and 1/4 tank gas
nordskog speedo best ever "saw" 80 mph
consistent 76-78 with gear tho
but that was a while back .... I dont run like it that anymore

Check This
09-07-2009, 05:34 PM
87 With 4 blade trophy 26 will switch to a 24 soon :thumb:

ndaniels
09-08-2009, 08:22 PM
9/8/09 At St. Mary's lake...temp 72*, humidity 70%, no wind- 79.9gps.

I jacked the motor up quite a bit- over an inch. The jack is topped out and I still have good water psi, so I'll have to raise the motor another hole...
Prop a little over 2"below the pad turning a 28p rakerII around 5850rpm. Solid motor mounts, hyd steering, and an 8" plate. 1/2 tank of fuel, gf along for the ride, and most gear onboard.
It was sticky water and had the whole lake to myself. Ran from Celina to St. Marys and back wfo- 78-79mph the whole way. Don't see days like this at that lake too often (its usually rough). Its extremely easy to drive and balance, I couldn't be happier with this setup.:cheers:

Low 80s here I come...:bigthumb:

checkmate_rider
09-09-2009, 01:54 AM
low 60's still playin with props and debating engine mods...:thumb:

Great East Predictor
09-11-2009, 03:00 PM
still workin on it...think the dead bug on the bottom of the speedo slowed me down

http://checkmate-boats.com/photopost/uploads/14633/photo_2_.jpg

Mr. Buss
09-11-2009, 05:19 PM
still workin on it...think the dead bug on the bottom of the speedo slowed me down

http://checkmate-boats.com/photopost/uploads/14633/photo_2_.jpg

Yeah Buddy!!!!

Very nice!!:thumb:

captainmorgan
09-11-2009, 08:53 PM
but if you ever were a captain and told the 4 others onboard to get in back while idoling along at 6krpm, and when you pushed the hotfoot to the floor waiting for the second it took get 7k, and your machine went out of control, and once i slowed down enuf , my 75 nearly went under water. anyone ever lost a blade off ther prop? thank the lord my boat dont chine.:thumb:

captainmorgan
09-11-2009, 08:59 PM
the whackey welders have fixed me up a gearcase that i dont care if the prop blows off it. its about safety, keeping smiles, andnot killing ourselves while smiling. i try to keep safe, but you never know. how much does it cost you to be safe? live and learn. i want my masters degree in going slow. cant wait till the exam.:sssh:

captainmorgan
09-11-2009, 09:09 PM
you can sit down there in florida, but ill race you with my new boat, old boat, next boat, dream boat, einsteins boat, harts boat, and my row boat:eyecrazy:you already knew us fools need gear cases:irked:

captainmorgan
09-11-2009, 09:29 PM
but i can tell you that the corners of my mouth have touched my ears, ive nearly overdosed on crabmet, and aint had no body owns a checkmate want to talk to me. i want show you fool what an enchanter is all about, in my bay. checkmate never made a boat capable of being beat to death. i wont tell any one i did. ill swear its stock. come on, harvest fest tomorrow, small craft advisory dreams.:banana:

winder
09-12-2009, 08:04 PM
Ok capt im not hiding just getting faster. Now that im running a checkmate the game is on:thumb:

yellowfiero88
12-29-2009, 02:19 AM
Enchanter 64 gps, 1/2 tank of fuel, 2 people, ski, tube, safety equipment, junkyard motor.

Playmate 34 non gps, 9 gallons gas, me, 50hp mariner

Sam I am
12-29-2009, 02:49 PM
I think I finally got my ECU's dialed in. I have a 2000 2100 Pulsare BR. I have 13 1/2" of setback. I run a warmed up 225EFI.(some Simon Motorsports upgrades) I spin a 25 Trophy Plus @ 6200rpms for a best max speed of 80.1mph GPS. I'm still prop testing to see where I hit my best topspeed. Hopefully I can report back in a week with better results.


Yes!!! I might see 80 this summer after all. I don't have the set back you do...only 6". I'm running an 06 2000 BR Pulsare with the 225 Pro XS. So: slightly lighter hull, same hp(?), same prop, with less setback = 80 mph??? MAybe???

Jetmate
12-29-2009, 07:39 PM
Here is what the brochure says top speed is. And I've bumped up the HP and beefed up the pump. I did 70mph on radar on the last motor.

http://checkmate-boats.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/10 :D

Ive had newbies in it that thought we were doing 100mph. It's a small boat and it can sure feel like it.

(Read specs on Jetmate)

B.G.R.
01-22-2010, 05:31 PM
1979 20ft. Enchanter 200 2.5 stock Merc 25p prop 68mph gps fresh h20

Reed
01-22-2010, 11:08 PM
I'm still in the testing mode~ I have a 1979 Trimate II that I have a 6 in CMC hydrolic jack plate a 2.4 Black Max that is modified and is putting out 240-250 hp , I have a 28 pitch Britt's Cut Chopper prop and my last test run I got 63 mph at 1/2 throttle on GPS ( tac was bad so I didn't get a true reading, best I could tell it was 5,500 rpm )
I added a whale tail so that eliminate the notorious ~ Chine Walk~, had white caps so I didn't open it up just kept it at 1/2 throttle, only the 4th run on a fresh broke in power head ( I built myself )
my goal is 75 - 80 mph by the end of the summer ~ wicked grins~ ;)

moisturemissile
01-24-2010, 08:35 PM
I ran on 70 gps last summer, stock 330 bbc with an xz drive and imco shorty with a 23 pitch 3 blade repitched to 25, + imco powerflow headers. I am so impressed with how well the boat handles (until I way overtrim it) even in choppy water.

So here is where I need some input....my 598 with dart 360`s, crower hyd. roller cam, team g intake and 1050 dominator is done and ready to stuff in the boat. I`m sure I have more power than boat, but what does everyone on here think? Should I just toss my 496 in there and look for more boat or hope this one can handle it? I really like the boat and am kind of looking forward to a really fast summer!

I`m saving a fresh 468 and stock drive for it untill I can swing a 25` convincor... but then I`ll drop some compression and put a procharger on it.

fireguy
01-24-2010, 08:49 PM
I guess that depends on where and what kind of boating you do. I have a very good friend that used to own a Senator with a BBC in it and i thought it was too heavy. It sat like it was doing a wheelie all the time and road and handled like crap in anything but perfect water. In perfect water it was a true 70mph boat, which was really cool. but all around I don't think you have enough boat to mess with it.

Save the HP for the 25 convincor and you will have a very nice well rounded boat.

moisturemissile
01-24-2010, 10:58 PM
I appreciate your responce. I boat on the rivers around Pittsburgh... they are usually pretty calm, and I know enough to back off when the waves are too much. as long as I hit them fairly straight on its fine. it does kind of ride "nose up" but handles really well. I`m sure the shorty with a nose cone helps that some. I`ve already moved the fuel tank forward 3", and the batterys are going in the ski compartment.

I`m sure your right tho.... better set the rev chip to about 4000 so I`m around for the boat that will take all the power!

justincase
01-24-2010, 11:03 PM
Does it matter anymore? ive recently figured out that it doesnt. Mines fast enough and speedo or gps it doesnt make my manhood any bigger

Check This
01-25-2010, 04:45 AM
I guess I must have said a 100 times on here -- they are sport boats. (Checkmate) that run as good as any, and look a whole lot better. Be happy with that.
Wanna go fast and do notin else -- Buy a go fast boat:brickwall:

ndaniels
01-25-2010, 11:11 AM
Does it matter anymore? ive recently figured out that it doesnt. Mines fast enough and speedo or gps it doesnt make my manhood any bigger

Dude, everything ok?:poke:


Going faster makes my wallet thinner, but my smile bigger.... does that count?:D

justincase
01-25-2010, 11:15 AM
Yeah, im just good where its at and i like going fast as the next person, but does it matter? people stretch the truth anyhow. does anyone whether its here or any other forum really tell the truth about thier speed?

Mr. Buss
01-25-2010, 03:23 PM
I ran on 70 gps last summer, stock 330 bbc with an xz drive and imco shorty with a 23 pitch 3 blade repitched to 25, + imco powerflow headers. I am so impressed with how well the boat handles (until I way overtrim it) even in choppy water.


How much chop you runnin' in??

I don't think they handle all that well... yes its easier to drive than the predictor at 80...but the senator in the low 70's aires out pretty good and i would NOT want to get into to much big chop with it
My $0.02

since this is a "how fast" thread, and i haven't posted on it yet, im sure most of you already know..;)


'89 senator, 350 sbc, stock alpha drive, spinnin a 23" cleaver, 2 people, 3/4 tank of fuel.... 71.4 gps

'78 predictor w/200, ive had it to just a smidge over 81, but i think illmattic had it a little quicker,... can't remember for sure..

moisturemissile
01-25-2010, 08:22 PM
once in a while when the wind kicks up we get 1-2`s. it likes them, just skimmping the top. what it dont like is passing other boats and catching the waves sideways. I`ve figured that out by trimming down and cornering them. still no cig top gun, but I havent rolled it yet! (yes, I wear my tether!)
I`ve seen your senator on here before Mr. Buss, looks like mine without the red bottom. I know its wrong putting power in this one, but I work on a lot of boats and really like it. If I sell my mud racing operation I`ll buy something like the 30' purple one Kunkle has for sale but with twins. for now this one is a whole lot of fun and beating the crap out of it all last summer it cost me 2 qts of oil. I spent a little more $$ putting a good drive together but at least I only had to do it once (so far)....
someone suggested a few #`s of sandbags in the ski compartment to settle it down? anyone ever tried that? I know a fat chick in the front seat works somewhat!

illMATTic
01-25-2010, 08:36 PM
Does it matter? He says. :lol:

You should only say that phrase if:

A) You get beat down by your wife daily.

B) You own a Bayliner.

C) You are over weight and afraid to take your
shirt off on a boat.

D) All of the above.

:devil::devil:

moisturemissile
01-25-2010, 10:21 PM
Speed dont matter???? What` this, the Starcraft / Bayliner forum?http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif
Last I looked the Checkmate logo said "performance boats" under it.

If you need something with a kitchen thats fine... I want FAST!.http://checkmate-boats.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

captainmorgan
01-25-2010, 11:12 PM
for me:p bay aint froze up again yet, and wood smoke is billowing from the shop chimney. but what i know shop & you think is a shop, is a hallucination. the boats i just seen in preparation of the holy war, i mean flight, for this spring, drive me to drink in anticipation.:cheers: ive been informed that i can only fly in the am after i sober up. if im allowed to fly this awesome boat, then i better quit the day before that morning, so i dont overdose on adrenalin & require cheek surgery. got know how to mix the whiskey with the flight for the proper ratio of smile:D. theres nothing like the smell of burnt 2 stroke oil. i like a good wiff while sitting in the ramp, while sitting in the ramp, preparing for the drink:) preparing for a smile. dont let a fool, in a bush, with a half gallon, confuse you with the real fool:sssh:

captainmorgan
01-25-2010, 11:21 PM
its how much smile you acheieve, & how close the corner of our mouths get to our ears.:bigthumb:

captainmorgan
01-25-2010, 11:31 PM
during small craft advisory, side too a good sea gives us cheek hangovers:thumb:

captainmorgan
01-25-2010, 11:51 PM
i couldnt posts all the boats we have for some reason. my motor man has them hanging from the ceiling @ 12 foot long, to the back of his mercury graveyard of 15 acres. im possessed, & ive met a fool who wants to get as much out of life as i do. i hate it when the bay freezes. makes me boil over in anticipation of showing a fool, with a smile.:banana:

captainmorgan
01-26-2010, 12:04 AM
aint but 2 kinds, good old big ones, & big old good ones, & little tiny giant ones. mark my word, all white, 18', 1 seat front & 2 in bak, steering helm center, adjustable hot foot left or right foot, frowns on our face because of winter:drool:

B.G.R.
01-26-2010, 05:16 PM
Thanks to all for info on alt kit for my old merc. As far as how fast I saw a crappy post on lies on speed. My GPS don't lie. And at 68 mph @ $2700 bucks in boat motor trailer and boomer stereo aint too bad . Do I get passed by fast bass boats , yep. Don't care. My Mate looks alot better than theirs and my boat is 31 years old. To all fellow Maters come to Lake Sante Fe we will have fun. 6,000 acres worth. Would love to see your boats.

Bruce 1979 Enchanter

hotdaddy27
01-26-2010, 07:17 PM
aint but 2 kinds, good old big ones, & big old good ones, & little tiny giant ones...

I believe that was 3 kinds, but who is counting! LOL

Go get 'em CAPTAIN!

Is that your Skater in the pic "Tunnel Vision"? Nice boat.

HD

captainmorgan
01-26-2010, 08:54 PM
thats how we build them, as long as they are safe. because us fools might never break out when we leave the dock, & have too much fun, too much smile, or were out of gas.:rof:

captainmorgan
01-26-2010, 09:08 PM
how would you like to live 5 minutes between the ches bay & atlantic ocean? that counts launching too. i cant decide which side to launch 1 of these smilemakers, because the ocean dont freeze, speed boats are drugs, & were fools. look at this one. does he look like einstein/mercury genious, or a drunken fool?:lol:

captainmorgan
01-26-2010, 10:03 PM
never experienced one:p this is a stupid old pic, but an awesome memory. 32 degrees is like i was holding the trim button. another degree below freezing brings out the fool in us. id rather die here than go home...

justincase
01-26-2010, 11:15 PM
Thanks to all for info on alt kit for my old merc. As far as how fast I saw a crappy post on lies on speed. My GPS don't lie. And at 68 mph @ $2700 bucks in boat motor trailer and boomer stereo aint too bad . Do I get passed by fast bass boats , yep. Don't care. My Mate looks alot better than theirs and my boat is 31 years old. To all fellow Maters come to Lake Sante Fe we will have fun. 6,000 acres worth. Would love to see your boats.

Bruce 1979 Enchanter
Crappy post? and how long have you been here that you can knock people???

Check This
01-27-2010, 03:29 AM
Thanks to all for info on alt kit for my old merc. As far as how fast I saw a crappy post on lies on speed. My GPS don't lie. And at 68 mph @ $2700 bucks in boat motor trailer and boomer stereo aint too bad . Do I get passed by fast bass boats , yep. Don't care. My Mate looks alot better than theirs and my boat is 31 years old. To all fellow Maters come to Lake Sante Fe we will have fun. 6,000 acres worth. Would love to see your boats.

Bruce 1979 Enchanter

Who said on this thread that you lied about your speed??:eyecrazy:

CHECK16
01-27-2010, 04:14 AM
people stretch the truth anyhow. does anyone whether its here or any other forum really tell the truth about thier speed?


Checkthis,
Not jumping to anyone's defense but I think he was talking about this post that states we are all liars.:poke:.

Check This
01-27-2010, 05:16 AM
[QUOTE=justincase;488865] people stretch the truth anyhow. does anyone whether its here or any other forum really tell the truth about thier speed?[/QUOTE


Checkthis,
Not jumping to anyone's defense but I think he was talking about this post that states we are all liars.:poke:.
Sorry
To tell you the truth I NEVER lie about speed it is not that important weather my checmate that will run 85 all day long as opposed to 90.6843921 With 1.39674302 gallons of fuel -- no back seat -- no snap in carpet -- now bow cushions. -- Nobody here is racing a boat under factory recomendations for HP which most of us fall under!! Give me a break;)
As I have said -- Wanna go realy fast -- Buy a go fast boat!!:bigthumb:
And I have never seen a sight with all the bloviating about speed but no one who actually posts it!!!
Show me!!! AS they say in Mizzzzorrriii;)

ndaniels
01-27-2010, 11:40 AM
Crappy post? and how long have you been here that you can knock people???
I'm just glad that someone finally called you out on your crappy posts...:rolleyes:

You going to go to the Cumberland deal this summer?

w spallane
01-27-2010, 07:08 PM
New Here. Got a 1990 Maxxum 229 454/Bravo1 Ended the season @70.0 gps testing my new prop. Mirage 25 by Gibbs. Likes chop. I see another 1-2 mph coming with dialing in the trim tabs.

justincase
01-27-2010, 11:15 PM
I'm just glad that someone finally called you out on your crappy posts...:rolleyes:

You going to go to the Cumberland deal this summer?
I dont know, havent thought that far ahead, ill check to see if the woman wants to go, dont really want to go by myself.

captainmorgan
01-29-2010, 08:55 PM
by myself in sm1, i cant turn 6k. im right at 1 mph/1000rpm. at 5k im running 50. in a little chop i can turn 6300 by myself. thats it, or my boat scares the crap out of me. if i put 3 or 4 head in the back, all i have to do is lean back, push the foot to the floor, hold the trim button in 1 hand, my open mixed drink cup in the other, and i could fall asleep at the wheel in a 1 foot chop looking at 7600 rpm, and never spill a drop besides what blow out the corners of my eyes. speed dont matter, like safety does, and if you folks think the captain is a fool, your right. im a damned fool. i just aint a stupid fkn fool. i did all that drunk. my next rig is just like terzians 18 that im blowed away to have onelike it. i wont drive drunk, but ill have a drink for sure, to help calm the adrenalin overdose,after i whip somemore 30 & 40k$ boats with a 3k setup. super dave ispresident, & the captain might sober up.:cheers:

fbpd227
01-31-2010, 10:33 AM
That's kewl Capt'n!

illMATTic
02-02-2010, 11:30 PM
I love the captns pics. They are always so up to date. :thumb:

fbpd227
02-04-2010, 07:57 PM
illmattic- I can't say enough HOW much I LOVE that pic of yours! It's so kewl with the shore line seemingly right next to you running at speed and the water DEAD still/ calm........LOVE IT!!!

mconroy
02-18-2010, 10:27 PM
Post asked for speed...

Flat water, 2 people, 13 gal of gas (half a tank), 75 mph by GPS. Any higher is kind of scary. Little or no wake, just a hint of smoke on top of the water. Boat is rock solid, but I cannot figure out if any of it is actually in the water any more. Scares the heck out of the jet skiers. Wife smiled.

You do not want to know what it feels like to take a dragon fly in the forehead at that speed. Thank God for wrap around sunglasses.

john lamon
02-18-2010, 10:38 PM
You do not want to know what it feels like to take a dragon fly in the forehead at that speed. Thank God for wrap around sunglasses.

When I first started dating my wife she took a sea gull in the head at 80mph, I thought is was over right there, but she didn't get mad, after all it was dark out. now windshields are a must have.

john lamon
02-18-2010, 10:40 PM
Post asked for speed...

Flat water, 2 people, 13 gal of gas (half a tank), 75 mph by GPS. Any higher is kind of scary. Little or no wake, just a hint of smoke on top of the water. Boat is rock solid, but I cannot figure out if any of it is actually in the water any more. Scares the heck out of the jet skiers. Wife smiled.
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how much set back?

mconroy
02-18-2010, 10:41 PM
When I first started dating my wife she took a sea gull in the head at 80mph, I thought is was over right there, but she didn't get mad, after all it was dark out. now windshields are a must have.

Glad she was not hurt. Windshield did not help. It came over the top. I picked it up as it came over the bow. Never had time to duck.

john lamon
02-18-2010, 11:00 PM
Glad she was not hurt. Windshield did not help. It came over the top. I picked it up as it came over the bow. Never had time to duck.

I used to wear snowboarding goggles in that boat, looked funny but it worked.

How much setback are you running? I also have an eluder and am curious.

yellowfiero88
02-19-2010, 08:41 PM
When I first started dating my wife she took a sea gull in the head at 80mph, I thought is was over right there, but she didn't get mad, after all it was dark out. now windshields are a must have.
:eyecrazy: Well John, since she is ok, damn if only you had a video recorder. Does she get a little gun shy when she sees birds flying near her? Bet at the time that was some scary stuff but hopefully you both can laugh about it now.

john lamon
02-20-2010, 02:31 AM
:eyecrazy: Well John, since she is ok, damn if only you had a video recorder. Does she get a little gun shy when she sees birds flying near her? Bet at the time that was some scary stuff but hopefully you both can laugh about it now.

ya we laugh about it now, we had only been dating a few weeks and were on are way back to the cabin after the bar closed at 2:30 am, I had the Avenger pinned because we could see some lightning in the direction we going and was trying to get back before we hit the storm, all of a sudden about 10 sea gulls that were sitting in the water flew straight up and Candice caught one with the top of here head, she had enough time to look down and that was about it. I think it scared her more than anything.

It was about 2 months later that the steering broke and I barrel rolled it so you can imagine how popular that boat was with her, I was very lucky no one was with me when that happened, back in those day's coming home from the bar with two or three passengers at 75 or 80 was a every fri and sat night thing.

The good old day's before changing diapers and midnight bottle feeds, LOL

mconroy
02-20-2010, 08:50 AM
I used to wear snowboarding goggles in that boat, looked funny but it worked.

How much setback are you running? I also have an eluder and am curious.

Sorry, missed the question. Answer is none. Motor is up on the transom about an inch, that is all. Barely fits in garage as it is. And extra few inches would break that. Have to take fin off to get it in. Fin is great for low speed stuff, and is completely out of water on plane. Hull is a dream at speed, especially out of the water. Could go faster, I was still holding some throttle. But, most of the hull is in ground (water) effect with the rear cathedral so I called that a good test point for a 25 year old boat with an old carburetor based outboard. Boy did she sing..... New ones do not sound half as cool.

Boat looks a lot like yours, but my big honking black motor that says 150 on the side (heh heh).

Mike

captainmorgan
02-26-2010, 07:31 PM
i cant show the pics of our boats because im a stupid redneck fool with no computer ability at all. i used to know how to send them from my phone to my documents, then to here:pissed:but my stupidity limits my ability. i cant show you the pics of our flying machines, & were building them with a vengence. all i get after manage attachments is invalid file. what, aint i paid my dues. i need a boat ride, but its too cold. heres the cure:cheers:
dont know how i did it but heres a sneak peek at sm3 steering helm center, 1 seat front, 2 in back w/cooler, & a surprise handgrenade on the back. i hope its a 75

captainmorgan
02-26-2010, 07:45 PM
ive been trying to prove that us checkmate lovers are still here, & were going do it like theres no tomorrow. do you believe me when i say we have 2 enchanters just like mine? i dont either. i only looks just like my smilemaker 1. do you believe me when i say we have a 16 baby tunnel like my alleycat, a 24 & 28 superboat, several other old school speed boats, & 15 acres of mercury motors? we aint no fools:shakehead: see my skeg on my sailboat hahahaha:rof:

captainmorgan
02-26-2010, 08:23 PM
good thing because my liver is nearly the size of a peanut. as soon as the ramp thaws il throw on an old prop, & clean the hull of my check with ice. aint got worry about beer getting hot. only got to worry about busting the winsheild with a black goose. us fools are 24/7/365, but this winter has nearly made us loose our minds, haha, imagine that?:lol:

captainmorgan
02-26-2010, 09:13 PM
wouldnt you be scared too? if you had the choice to fly a boat faster than youve ever been in one before? but you had the ultimatum that you can only do it sober. only thing good i can relate to that is ill remember it. then again ive been fortunate to remember the way to the ramp for 40 years. didnt know we pulled the boat up, but one morning had to get a boat ride to recover my vessel drifting in the bay, yet i woke up in bed, not knowing i owned a boat. super dave didnt tell me that the moon looked like the sun was up at 3am while drinking whiskey. good thing marsh grass was soft. didnt hurt gear cases or break necks. but im willing to quit drinking to get that fill of speed. yea, sober up, go straight, quit it all, just to get that ultimate thrill. thats what will kill me, unless i can have one after. theres no drug like a flight in a boat. hey einstein, how about we put one those ignition lock breatherlizers on the v king? or put a 75 on it so we dont go to fast that my sober driving will blow the beer out of the passengers cans? :sssh: every day i wake up is a risk. but i can tell you one thing is sure, i wouldnt fly that freiking boat for nothing. im getting an airplane:Dunless u let me have a celebration drink, for a lifetime of going slow, getting beat by rick:yell:. ill drink to that, then ill drink to my drinkin to my drinkin to that. i wouldnt want to risk a DUI by boat. thats scary for the ones in the back seat. hahaha its up to you. i can hold the tiller handle at 90+:banana: i promise you super dave, ill never leave you laying in your driveway in your lifejacket again, if you let me go fast... :lol:

captainmorgan
02-26-2010, 10:23 PM
you think thats something. i could start a petting zoo while riding a roller coaster at an amusement park, depending on the chop. why you think all my boats have plexiglass windsheilds? its like riding in a pop corn popper. if there was ever a bird watcher tour guide alive that could get a closeup like the smilemaker1, with free tours for all members of PETA, and ill even throw in the crabcake dinner on tangeir, & you can best believe were fattenning the crabs up. its a shame that those ugly black geese herd up in the bay and misjudge the speed of the boat. one things for sure, if you see crap, you see guts quickly after. whats the best is when you get several flying along with you inches from the bow, and you see their eyes, and their desparation in the decision as to whether, fly or dive?. hurts our feelings so bad knowing we lost another chip of paint due to a beak, off my bow. but the bird watchers loved the feather rooster in the sunset. were the ones who feel the pain, not the birds. my cheeks hurt so bad that theres actually a new hangover called smile. it hurts when you go bird watching, and the corner of your mouth touches your ears, whether your smiling or crying haha. im not ashamed of accidently hitting a goose. but who else do you know who can fly a boat, touch & pet a black goose in mid flight, feel the air off their wings, in a pop corn popper of a checkmate? ONLY THE ENCHANTED

panukelk46
05-28-2010, 09:12 PM
Pulsare 2100 ln with 2010 250 etec ho 25p raker turning 83on gps with 6inch stock setback. There is more throttle but need some hints on setup and handling. Motor comes with LS2 gearcase.

BagMan
05-28-2010, 11:45 PM
Welcome to the site!

I'd suggest starting a new thread and you'll get TONS of great advice.

Sounds like you have a really nice boat to fine tune.