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$6900 1997 21' Pulsare LD!!!
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JUPITER PULSARE
Well-known member
That's OK...I know how to replace a Pulsare floor and make the boat lighter!!!
Wish I had the spare $$$...that boat would be on it's way to Florida right now!!
Wish I had the spare $$$...that boat would be on it's way to Florida right now!!
I'd be really surprised to find a '90's Checkmate that didn't need some sort of wood replacement, floor or seat frame
john lamon
Well-known member
If you wanted to make a dangerous bet, I'd put $100 on the table we could find some rot below the floor and in the rear seat bases/framework after the vinyl was ripped off................
The bad news is even if your boat is totally dry, now it's all taken apart
ross
Well-known member
If you wanted to make a dangerous bet, I'd put $100 on the table we could find some rot below the floor and in the rear seat bases/framework after the vinyl was ripped off................
The bad news is even if your boat is totally dry, now it's all taken apart
there was some sign of rot in the flite when i sold it but i wasn't concerned....just didnt want to have to replace the floor in years to come
a boat that vintage(my 1987)there WILL be some sort of moisture in it regardless of what you wana think!
the only savior would be you bought it new or you bought it from the original owner and he was as anal as the rest of us
john lamon
Well-known member
If you wanted to make a dangerous bet, I'd put $100 on the table we could find some rot below the floor and in the rear seat bases/framework after the vinyl was ripped off................
The bad news is even if your boat is totally dry, now it's all taken apart
You could be right, however I did buy it from the original owner who's cabin is a few down from my parents, he had a 7 hour drive to get there from where he lived so he only came out on long weekends, I would guess the boat spent 8-10 day's a year in the water on a covered lift and the rest of the time it was in the garage, he was so anal he wouldn't even leave it on the lift if he wasn't there.
The vinyl is getting a little dry so I will probably go ahead a order new skins from the factory this winter and we will see if I find any rot.
yellowfiero88
Well-known member
No John, its still frozen solid from the winter
I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that my next checkmate, if it's more than 10 years old, will have to be run down to the factory for a complete new core-up restoration. Unless I can find one that was never used like yours John.
I've been running a little outboard FourWinns Horizon all summer to pull the wife tubing while searching for my next 'Mate. Interesting thing about this 8 year old Four Winns, there's no wood. The floor is all white non-skid fiberglass and I don't care HOW much water gets dripped into it or splased into it or how big a wave crashes over the bow there's no wood to worry about! It has snap-in carpet, which I've cleaned and removed into storage. This little boat is a big white fiberglass bath tub. I wish Checkmate had figured out a way to build the boats we love will all composits like Allison and Four Winns....................
I've been running a little outboard FourWinns Horizon all summer to pull the wife tubing while searching for my next 'Mate. Interesting thing about this 8 year old Four Winns, there's no wood. The floor is all white non-skid fiberglass and I don't care HOW much water gets dripped into it or splased into it or how big a wave crashes over the bow
there's no wood to worry about! It has snap-in carpet, which I've cleaned and removed into storage. This little boat is a big white fiberglass bath tub. I wish Checkmate had figured out a way to build the boats we love will all composits like Allison and Four Winns....................
hotdaddy27
Well-known member
JW,
I got your next Mate. Check out the classifieds!
HD
I got your next Mate. Check out the classifieds!
HD
hotdaddy27
Well-known member
T
TheNerd
Guest
Buy it and you can post all the pictures you want!
I'd rather he didnt buy it, I dont want to see 4 pages of posts by JW and his brother belly aching about rotten wood. Let them stick to 4 Winns and that site.
What's the matter Nerd-boy, getting nervous about the wood in your boat? I think the factory is slowly getting things fixed by switching to the liner boats. If anyone calls down and talks to Mike, ask him how many '90s vintage Checkmates they had lined up for new interiors
He admitted to my brother that they made some mistakes back then. The good news is we're dealing with the best fiberglass lay-up and gel coat you can find on any brand boat. Same thing happened to the Hydrostreams, but at a much worse rate. The motto with the original Hydrostreams is: Either it needs to be recored, or it has already been recored................
Fortunately Checkmate did a much better job than 'Stream, so the wood rot is MUCH less of a problem for us.
Reason I'm a little pissed about our boats and wood rot is because MOST of what's happened to the 80's boats thru the '90's was easily avoided if some small steps weren't overlooked during the build. Looking through all of the rebuild posts here on the forums it's obvious some small quality improvements up front could have saved a lot of work 10-15 years later.
groundloop
Active member
After totally rebuilding my Eluder I'd have to pretty much agree with that assesment. However, I think that composite materials ( and the knowledge of how to use them) have come a LONG way in the past 10 to 15 years and what's available now is far far better than then. Also, a lot of the problem is how owners treat their boat. It's obvious one of my boat's previous owners left it out in the weather uncovered a lot. People just equated boats to bathtubs and never realized that water wasn't supposed to be on the inside. I do have to really hand it to Checkmate about their basa cored hulls though, after all that abuse and neglect my 31 year old core was perfect.
Still, I think it's high time for Checkmate to get all the plywood out. Between Coosa Board, Starboard, etc. there are plenty of options for all-composite construction that wouldn't add a significant amount to the cost of a relatively top of the line boat.
(Has this thread now been sufficiently hijacked?)
WIcheckmate
Member
95 pulsare
that does stink... you just have to find one that isn't used a whole lot... i sold my 96 pulse and bought the 95 pulsare 21ld buuutt.... the 21 wasn't used a lot and never left in the water... the boat prolly has about 500 total hours on it.. if i ever did have to re-core i wonder how much it would cost??? does anybody have any numbers? i always assume though if you take good care of your **** from day one and always take it out of the water after use you shouldn't have a problem..
that does stink... you just have to find one that isn't used a whole lot... i sold my 96 pulse and bought the 95 pulsare 21ld buuutt.... the 21 wasn't used a lot and never left in the water... the boat prolly has about 500 total hours on it.. if i ever did have to re-core i wonder how much it would cost??? does anybody have any numbers? i always assume though if you take good care of your **** from day one and always take it out of the water after use you shouldn't have a problem..
bigredinohio
Active member
Still, I think it's high time for Checkmate to get all the plywood out. Between Coosa Board, Starboard, etc. there are plenty of options for all-composite construction that wouldn't add a significant amount to the cost of a relatively top of the line boat.
(Has this thread now been sufficiently hijacked?)
It was my understanding from when I met with Mike from Checkmate a few months ago that they are already doing this.
groundloop
Active member
I hadn't heard that. On the factory website's manufacturing page it still looks like wood being used for the stringers, if that's not the case anymore it would be a good selling point.