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74 Checkmate Bassmate Rehab

kc8ard

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Hello everyone,

I'm new to the forum and relatively new to boating. I just acquired an old 74 Bassmate with an 850 merc engine for a good price(i think). As of yet, I don't think I'll need to restore it completely yet, but it's going to need a little rehab work. I could be wrong though. :D


The good:

I believe the transom is alright. I took a hammer and tapped around every place I could reach and everything sounded fine.

Luckily, it has had at least a nice vented custom cover over it, it's entire life. The cover is in poor condition now and severely sun faded, but it's still holding water tight except for one small rip where the trolling motor is located

There are no holes in the deck from rot. There are a couple soft spots from wear and tear, but every spot where(i believe) stringers exist, are solid.

The trim pump works, but there's more noted below.

It comes with a brand new 19p stainless prop. I can't remember, but i think it's a Michigan prop.

The bad:

Sorry to say about checkmate, but whoever wired this boat may have been drunk, genetically challenged, or was forced to use cheap/fast methods by the powers that be. I'm speaking about the poor choice of connectors, extra wiring when not needed, splices, etc. On top of this, the previous owners botched and half-arsed quite a bit of the wiring. This isn't the first time I've seen this, as my sea ray is similar. I'm a serious electronics hobbyist, and my father is professional. We must have ripped out 200 feet of old defunct wiring. The rest of the boat wiring is pretty much junk at this point due to cracking insulation and other wear and tear. There's enough electrical tape to attach and restrain a drunk boater to a ceiling. We're going to rewire it completely and properly and draw up a nice wiring diagram for the boat.

There are tons of holes everywhere from the bilge to the bow that need to be gone through and reglassed/patched properly. The old cracking putty and shoddy patch work preclude this boat from currently being seaworthy. I can't imagine how this boat still floats without a 2000gpm bilge pump. There's enough putty caked around the livewell through hull fitting to redo a bathroom. The deck has all sorts of holes filled with that rubbery bathroom silicone junk.

Speaking of the bilge pump. I don't think garden hose and cpvc qualifies as acceptable plumbing for both the bilge pump and livewell pump.

The pilot's seat base was ripped out long ago. The previous owners tried to secure the seat post down to the deck sans base and failed. I'm going to rip out both bases and glass in a nice box to mount a 58" bench seat.

The engine? Geez. All of the wiring is junk, and I ended up buying a new harness. The new stator comes in next week. It was a pile of tin coated wire and potting epoxy. It will require a tune up. I need to buy a new compression gauge or leakdown tester, as mine disappeared in a friends garage/toolbox long ago, so I can't give any compression numbers right now. Also the skeg needs a little repair work.

Eventually the boat will need to be painted or re-gel coated on the outside. I don't know what i'm going to do yet. I like the metal flake, but I don't know what it's going to take to repair it and make it look factory new. I'll have to study a little more. I'm going to try to clean the hull first before I make any more decisions.


Conclusion so far:

This seems like it will be a nice boat eventually, but it's going to take some hard work, money, and elbow grease to make it seaworthy. I like the quality of the glass work and finish that was put into it when the boat was originally built. I apologize if I offend anyone that worked on the electrical side from the factory.

As an example of the shoddy owner work, i have a couple pictures of how the engine harness was repaired. I'll take some pictures next week of the boat itself.


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"Sorry to say about checkmate, but whoever wired this boat may have been drunk, genetically challenged, or was forced to use cheap/fast methods by the powers that be. I'm speaking about the poor choice of connectors, extra wiring when not needed, splices, etc. "

My advice before pointing fingers at Checkmate, remeber its a 1974 who knows what could have happened after it left the factory.

Either way, good luck with the project, and keep us posted on the pics.
 
"Sorry to say about checkmate, but whoever wired this boat may have been drunk, genetically challenged, or was forced to use cheap/fast methods by the powers that be. I'm speaking about the poor choice of connectors, extra wiring when not needed, splices, etc. "

My advice before pointing fingers at Checkmate, remeber its a 1974 who knows what could have happened after it left the factory.

Either way, good luck with the project, and keep us posted on the pics.

I'll give an example: The the harness for the trim switch is spliced in the middle instead of one continuous wire from the switch to the connector. That introduces another set of failure points. It looks like a factory job, instead of owners work, because of the type of crimp on the butt connector. There's no heat shrink tubing to cover the joint to prevent water penetration. It seems like a fast and easy way to do things. For the most part this is acceptable, but for durability and sake of mind, I don't think it should have been done that way. Of course, this could be the way mercury does things, but I don't know.

EDIT: I guess I was trying to be humorous than anything else. Regardless, this will be a fun project.
 
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Question what does it matter who did it? We have all picked up an old boat that had a rat’s nest of wiring. I just finished redoing my Coronado and it had a mess. One of the past owners tried to run an amp gauge without the regulator. Either way I just redid the wiring and now it is fixed. What is the point of trying to throw the factory under a 37 year old bus? It will not help get it fixed.
 
Question what does it matter who did it? We have all picked up an old boat that had a rat’s nest of wiring. I just finished redoing my Coronado and it had a mess. One of the past owners tried to run an amp gauge without the regulator. Either way I just redid the wiring and now it is fixed. What is the point of trying to throw the factory under a 37 year old bus? It will not help get it fixed.



I think you misunderstand me or read too deep. I'm not throwing the factory under the bus. Most companies take cost cutting measures and practice predesigned obsolescence. Besides, it was more of a jab at improper wiring work in particular.
 
My old 88s wiring was a nightmare.. all the old boats were that way from what I've seen. The factory wiring has come a long ways since then.

Good luck with the project.
 
Sorry to say about checkmate, but whoever wired this boat may have been drunk, genetically challenged, or was forced to use cheap/fast methods by the powers that be. I'm speaking about the poor choice of connectors, extra wiring when not needed, splices, etc.

this was the line I believe TheNerd and I were questioning. My post wasn't directed at you or anyone. I just remember my wiring nightmare and how no matter what I thought of the people that owned the boat or the factory that made it didn't change the fact it was screwed up. In the end regardless who got it that way it should be fixed. I wish you the best of luck on it, keep us posted and I am sure that it will be a great boat when finished. :thumb:
 
I hate everybodys wiring, I like things my way. So I just rip it all out and through it all in the trash. Then I take a 2 nights in the garage and rewire it my way.

I would have checked the compression before I bought a new stator and wiring harness for the engine.
 
I hate everybodys wiring, I like things my way. So I just rip it all out and through it all in the trash. Then I take a 2 nights in the garage and rewire it my way.

I would have checked the compression before I bought a new stator and wiring harness for the engine.

I figure if i need to, I'll re-ring it, replace the reeds, gaskets, etc. It will give me an interesting project and I don't mind spending a little money. There's an old joke I heard a while ago with some of my pilot friends:

Boat owners say, "A boat is a hole in the water in which you throw tons of money."
Airplane owners say, "Boat owners don't know how to spend money"
 
Either way, maybe I had a few drinks at that time I dont remember, that was a long time ago. Every boat I have ever owned had a mess of wires under the dash. I have always talked about cleaning it up, but as long as it works why bother??
 
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Forget the wiring. Let's see the boat.

From the way you describe it, with all those holes, it sounds like you're going to find a lot of surprises you're not going to like.
 
I was thinking exactly the same thing. And ANY soft spot in the deck is suspicious - soft spots are caused by rotted wood.


I know. I'm pretty worried. I'm thinking about picking up one of those inspection cams with the flexible end and drilling a couple inspection holes in the deck. I won't have time to work on it or take pictures until the weekend, since I pretty much live at work. I'll take some pictures then. Also, there's a bassmate in my area with a way oversized motor for sale for 3k. I'll have to see if i can dig up the craigslist ad
 
Did Checkmate really make bass type boats back in the day or are these just badly molested Checkmates?
 
There's pictures of them in the brochure section of the gallery/showroom forum. I looked through them once and it seems like the BassMates were only made for a couple of years, so there probably aren't but a handful of them still around.
 
I invariably end up re-doing a bunch of wiring related stuff on any car, truck, boat, atv, that I buy. My Mate's wiring was relatively unhacked but the on thing that was really butchered was due to the factory putting two glass "barrel" fuses in non water esistant holders and then stuffing them all the way against the transom on the starboard side behind the battery. Apparently when one dissolved and some of the accessories/gauges stopped working, someone was either too lazy to locate or unable to locate the source of the trouble and grabbed power off the other feed that went up to the front. I can't be too hard on them because it took me a bit of searching back there to find the remains of the dissolved one and the functional one that was almost gone. I replaced all of them with blade style weather resistant ones and life is good again. :)

John
 
My Mate's wiring was relatively unhacked but the on thing that was really butchered was due to the factory.....


Would that have been done by the factory or by a dealer who rigged the boat? Maybe Wildman can shed some light on how much of the wiring is done by the factory vs. dealers, but I was under the impression that a lot of that sort of thing is done at the dealers.
 
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