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96 185 Pulse restoration.

SunTime said:
BTW, does anyone know what Checkmate used to lay in and bond their stringers to the hull initially? Looks like the same stuff that they used for filler.
I'm impressed with how well that stuff bonded and held.
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They used body filler. Look at my resto blog part 9. Checkmate uses DBF brand(Detroit Body Filler); Bondo is identicle except for color. As discussed in your other thread you might want to consider using PL Premium to bond the stringers/knees to the inner hull and transom; otherwise the Bondo will be fine. Nice work BTW.:thumb:

Hick
 
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Old Hickory said:
They used body filler. Look at my resto blog part 9. Checkmate uses DBF brand(Detroit Body Filler); Bondo is identicle except for color. As discussed in your other thread you might want to consider using PL Premium to bond the stringers/knees to the inner hull and transom; otherwise the Bondo will be fine. Nice work BTW.:thumb:

Hick
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Hick I do still have a couple big tubes of the PL Premium still that I plan on using to set the knees, stringers etc with. That DPF brand though is impressive stuff as far as how well it's held up in a very negelected boat. I may use that for a filler once I get to laying in the floor depending on pricing/availability of it around here.

BTW I have been following your work and it's helped me a bunch! Thanks for all the usefull info that your thread has been to me. :bigthumb:
 
SunTime said:
Hick I do still have a couple big tubes of the PL Premium still that I plan on using to set the knees, stringers etc with. That DPF brand though is impressive stuff as far as how well it's held up in a very negelected boat. I may use that for a filler once I get to laying in the floor depending on pricing/availability of it around here.

BTW I have been following your work and it's helped me a bunch! Thanks for all the usefull info that your thread has been to me. :bigthumb:
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Thanks, glad I've been useful for a change:D

Which ever adhesive you use will be fine. The Bondo will make for better fillet's. Once you have glued the stringers and knees in with the PL, let it set and dry, then trim any big globs with a utility knife. Fillet over with your Bondo.

Tip:

Use a wood tongue depressor(popsicle stick works pretty well too) to remove excess PL after application. ie: when joining two pieces at a right angle, once pressed together and clamped, run the tongue depressor down the joint removing excess before it dries. Throw the tongue blade away and grab another for the other side. You'll have a nice clean bead on each side of the joint that will need virtually no trimming or sanding before fillet w/ Bondo.
 
Built rear stringers and support along with two of the kick plates. (two more to come for my battery box on each side in the morning along with additional transom support)

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Plan on glassing things up and possibly setting everything as well by Sunday. Also wanting to finish getting the transom and other areas that can be seen sanded down nicely for my planned coat of Awegrip, that is IF I can get everything glassed and tabbed in before my weekend ends.. My hope is to have a decent surface to make it look purrty. :eyecrazy: My son-in-law is now heavily into it as well now with a helping hand that is priceless going forward. He favors construction vs destruction! :D

The clamps came from someones idea here on this forum. Agian, making this place priceless for infromation! Huge wealth of information and ideas!
 
SunTime said:
Built rear stringers and support along with two of the kick plates. (two more to come for my battery box on each side in the morning along with additional transom support)

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P1010835.jpg

Plan on glassing things up and possibly setting everything as well by Sunday. Also wanting to finish getting the transom and other areas that can be seen sanded down nicely for my planned coat of Awegrip, that is IF I can get everything glassed and tabbed in before my weekend ends.. My hope is to have a decent surface to make it look purrty. :eyecrazy: My son-in-law is now heavily into it as well now with a helping hand that is priceless going forward. He favors construction vs destruction! :D

The clamps came from someones idea here on this forum. Agian, making this place priceless for infromation! Huge wealth of information and ideas!
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St those are some beefy knee braces along with the horizontal brace, looks good. :thumb: The clamps idea came from Old Hickory a bunch of us has utilized them already. Do you plan on awlgrip on the inside transom and down in the bilge area? If so that will will look good. The resto is coming along great.
 
Yup CP, I plan on Awlgrip anywhere that can be visible or even not so visible like under the fuel tank etc.. Sounds as though the stuff is water proff as well so maybe added insurance of things never getting water logged again is a great side benifit . It'll give it a nice clean smooth look some what gel like. From what I've researched so far it sounds like it should be my best alternative to spraying gel.

If someone has used it before or have a better substitue I'd like to hear about it! :thumb:
 
SunTime said:
Yup CP, I plan on Awlgrip anywhere that can be visible or even not so visible like under the fuel tank etc.. Sounds as though the stuff is water proff as well so maybe added insurance of things never getting water logged again is a great side benifit . It'll give it a nice clean smooth look some what gel like. From what I've researched so far it sounds like it should be my best alternative to spraying gel.

If someone has used it before or have a better substitue I'd like to hear about it! :thumb:
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I went with the nonskid floor on the resto and will add snap on carpet later. I was thinking the same thing, the added insurance of never getting water logged again, I just used a different approach. I do know awlgrip is expensive, I got a quote to spray my boat a smooth $10,000.:( Good stuff from what I've read.
 
Does anyone know the purpose of the foam under the gunnel sides is? (where the ledge attaches to the hull bottom)

I plan on making that wider to accomodate larger cup holders so I'm guessing this was done at factory for a specific reason.. :poke:
 
Here's what I'm thinking on battery boxes, etc on each side. (rough design)

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One thing for sure is this is not any kind of restoration you can hurry thru. Painfully slow progess. With highs and in the single digits outside and lows below 0 it also taxes my heating bill! No end in sight either for this chitty cold snap...... :yell:
 
Very useful thread!
I'm gonna have to think about this as while I'll likely foam in the box structure but adding that sheet of foam between the hull and box bottom itself sounds really un-needed - if I'm getting the correct assessment from the thread.

Thanks agian cmpulse!
 
SunTime said:
Here's what I'm thinking on battery boxes, etc on each side. (rough design)

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One thing for sure is this is not any kind of restoration you can hurry thru. Painfully slow progess. With highs and in the single digits outside and lows below 0 it also taxes my heating bill! No end in sight either for this chitty cold snap...... :yell:
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St are you gonna drill some holes for water to drain into the bilge area. That's if water ever gets in the battery boxes. I like the design.:thumb:
 
cmpulse170 said:
St are you gonna drill some holes for water to drain into the bilge area. That's if water ever gets in the battery boxes. I like the design.:thumb:
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Yea I'm planning on being sure that water will never just sit anywhere again. I also will add a drain in the bow storage area and pipe it back to the rear stinger bulkhead with pvc pipe of some sort as I plan on making it a desiganted anchor locker area. Just need to figure out a design to lock it in place when not in use.
 
Well I found out real fast if you have water intrusion into the Core in a roundabout way.
Wheeled the hull outside in 10 degree weather to do the remainder of my grinding and removal of the rest of the stringers. 2 hours later wheeled her back into the shop and low and behold I had a perfect outline in the form of condensation of what balsa needed to be removed. Just another setback as I had hoped to get the stringers set last weekend and started on fitting the floor. Go figure, nothing goes quite as planned. I'm now sure I have the most neglected/abused 1996 boat in the country.
The water likely came from a chip in the gelcoat on the bottom of the pad midway up from the stern that I missed when I first looked at the boat. guess the previous owner wasn't smart enough to know how easily a balsa cored hull can become serious issues once water has a way in. :shakehead:

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